Stefan N Stefan N said:
[link] 117 monteringsanvisning.pdf

I also learned in elementary school to double-check things, especially when it comes to Byggmax. In the version of the instructions that is not patched together from several models, it is clearer.
That was a better link.
 
F fribygg said:
"Assembly can be done with hidden fastening (if battening takes place immediately) or alternatively with nailing through both layers of the roofing underlay"
But you forgot the footnote, that it is only approved with hidden fastening.
But maybe irrelevant.
I have a neighbor whose carpenter installed a similar fabric, and of course with hidden fastening with staples. And the fabric isn't wavy either.
 
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GoC GoC said:
But you forgot the footnote, that it is only approved with hidden fastening.
But maybe irrelevant.
I have a neighbor whose carpenter installed a corresponding membrane, and of course with hidden fastening using staples. And the membrane is not wavy either.
I have not written the instruction.
Nor have I linked to it.
I have not even checked that it is the correct instruction as it is not my construction project.
In the linked instruction, it says that it is allowed, and if you or TS have a problem with it, take it up with the manufacturer or seller of the product, I am innocent and wondered early in the thread if it should be nailed.
 
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GoC GoC said:
But you forgot the footnote, that it is only approved with hidden fastening.
But maybe irrelevant.
I have a neighbor for carpenter mounted equivalent fabric, and of course with hidden fastening with staples. And the fabric is not wavy either.
Was it you who posted the link to the unclear installation instructions?
 
F fribygg said:
Was it you who published the link to the unclear installation instructions?
We were two who simultaneously published the "unclear" instructions from Byggmax
If it is now so unclear? The text seems identical to the one Trebolit has on its website
Approved roof = invisible
An approved = nail through both layers.

But enough about that, you are right. The installation is completely correctly executed.
 
GoC GoC said:
There were two of us who simultaneously published the "unclear" instruction from Byggmax
If it is now so unclear? The text seems identical to the one Trebolit has on their website
Approved roof = invisible
An approved = nail through both layers.

But enough about that, you are right. The installation is completely correctly executed.
Thanks.
 
If you check Byggmax's instructions, you will see that it covers five different types of felt, of which 117 is one. When Byggmax edited it a bit, they missed cutting out everything that wasn't for 117. The Danish version below mentions that the other types are approved for nailing through, but 117 is not.
 
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Stefan N Stefan N said:
If you check Byggmax's instructions, you will see that it covers five different types of papp, of which 117 is one. When Byggmax edited it a bit, they missed removing everything that wasn't for 117. The Danish version indicates that the other types can be nailed through, but 117 cannot be.
I myself would never have thought to check the Danish instructions, but maybe that’s right since the manufacturer is probably Skånsk.
If the Montageanvisning isn't in Östgötska, I usually skim through the Swedish or possibly English ones.
 
Hey! You don't need to redo the roofing just because it's a bit bubbly. The underlayment fabric is harder to get smooth than underlayment paper. But if you've double-nailed it, technically you should redo it to meet standards, but there are degrees to everything. In the picture where you laid a round of underlayment paper, you haven't double-nailed that sheet. Can't you just redo the first three sheets with regular paper or underlayment fabric and loosen the seam between fabric and paper so you don't have to redo everything? And if you want to lay new paper over the whole thing, you don't need to remove the first fabric you laid (y)
 
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S Snickarkirre said:
Hi! You don't need to redo the felt just because it's a bit bubbly. The underlay fabric is harder to get smooth than the underlay felt. But since you've double-nailed it, you might technically need to redo it if following the standards, but there are degrees to everything. In the picture where you've laid a layer of underlay felt, you haven't double-nailed that strip. Can't you just redo the first three strips with regular felt or underlay fabric and loosen the seam between the fabric and felt, so you don't have to redo everything? And if you want to lay new felt over the whole thing, you don't need to remove the first fabric you laid (y)
Thanks, that sounds like a good idea. Bought new roofing felt, YAP2200. According to these instructions, it can be nailed either hidden or through both layers. Which is preferable?
 
I think it feels safer to have the nails hidden under the adhesive edge than visible.
 
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T Ejmelie said:
Thanks, that sounds like a good idea. Bought new roofing felt, YAP2200. According to these instructions, it can be nailed either concealed or through both layers. Which is preferable?
The only advantage of nailing through both is that you can wait with the battens or the outer roof. There are advantages, for example, if you are going to have shingles or surface felt and there will be a delay, or perhaps you have to wait for someone else to do it.

Now, the underlay felt won't make it stormproof but significantly more wind-resistant than with concealed fixing.
 
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T Ejmelie said:
Thanks, that sounds like a good idea. Bought new roofing felt, YAP2200. According to these instructions, it can be nailed both concealed or through both layers. What is preferable?
“What is preferable?”

If you think about it yourself! What would you prefer? A roofing felt where no nails are visible or a roofing felt where a lot of nail heads are visible?

For me, the choice is simple.
 
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Krille-72 Krille-72 said:
"What is preferable?"

If you think for yourself! What would you prefer? A roofing felt where no nails are visible or a roofing felt where many felt nail heads are visible?

For me, the choice is simple.
If I think for myself?
I'm not talking about aesthetics. I'm asking because I see advantages with both installations. But asking because I know there are those who know better than me what is most suitable.
 
I see advantages in nailing instead of stapling.
 
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