Oops, maybe I should clarify a bit. 
I didn't understand how it was connected myself, so I checked with the seller and it costs around 170-180k SEK to plaster, but since you remove the panel and don't have to paint, the ADDITIONAL COST is about 80k SEK. :
In this case, it's STO plaster which apparently is supposed to be a bit flexible and therefore not crack. It is troweled on and is through-colored.
Good or bad? Expensive or cheap?
I didn't understand how it was connected myself, so I checked with the seller and it costs around 170-180k SEK to plaster, but since you remove the panel and don't have to paint, the ADDITIONAL COST is about 80k SEK. :
In this case, it's STO plaster which apparently is supposed to be a bit flexible and therefore not crack. It is troweled on and is through-colored.
Good or bad? Expensive or cheap?
I'm also interested in feedback on Just Sto Puts, good or bad? We got an estimated price of 135,000 SEK to plaster a 1.5-story house measuring 165 sqm (I don't know the wall area) from Trivselhus. It's probably negotiable—what do I know, but regardless, it's not something you just apply if it doesn't meet the standards.
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That should mean that the house we have looked at, 167 sqm, should have a facade area of approximately 129 sqm since we've been quoted an additional price of 135,000 SEK compared to wood siding. Is that really reasonable, or am I thinking incorrectly?M@ZE said:Trivselhus has a guideline value of 1050:-/sqm for getting a plastered facade, there was no chance we could afford that since the facade area of the house is 280sqm
The question of whether to use plaster or wood is driving me crazy! I think plaster is the most beautiful, but does it last? STO-plaster is only a maximum of 5mm thick, so what happens if you bump into it with a ladder or fire a leather ball against a wall? How well does the plaster hold up after 20 years?
Is the alternative then to build stone houses? I don't know. I'm probably losing my grip because now I'm scrutinizing every plastered house I see, whether I'm walking or driving, and I can only conclude that many "maintenance-free" plastered houses look quite shabby. Peeling paint, discolored, water-damaged, dirty, and cracked plaster is not uncommon. Houses with wooden facades seem more manageable than plastered ones when they start to age a bit. A "wooden house" becomes almost like new every eight years!
But plaster is the most attractive on certain types of houses, that's just the way it is.
Help!
Is the alternative then to build stone houses? I don't know. I'm probably losing my grip because now I'm scrutinizing every plastered house I see, whether I'm walking or driving, and I can only conclude that many "maintenance-free" plastered houses look quite shabby. Peeling paint, discolored, water-damaged, dirty, and cracked plaster is not uncommon. Houses with wooden facades seem more manageable than plastered ones when they start to age a bit. A "wooden house" becomes almost like new every eight years!
But plaster is the most attractive on certain types of houses, that's just the way it is.
Help!
I completely agree with you Framerate, I also wavered back and forth, but eventually I made my decision. But the reason that it's damn expensive to get stucco on the house compared to going with a wooden façade made me feel it wasn't worth spending so much extra for a stucco façade.
But if money was completely insignificant, I would have chosen stucco.
But for the additional cost, we get a garage + lot fixed.
But if money was completely insignificant, I would have chosen stucco.
But for the additional cost, we get a garage + lot fixed.
Hello,
We're going to build a Götenehus with stucco on polystyrene. I asked them about the alternatives you mentioned, but they weren't very keen on it. Their alternative was to brick and then stucco, which becomes much more expensive.
The downside of not building it yourself is probably things like this. Other wooden house manufacturers might have different options, I don't know.
Regards/Brelle
We're going to build a Götenehus with stucco on polystyrene. I asked them about the alternatives you mentioned, but they weren't very keen on it. Their alternative was to brick and then stucco, which becomes much more expensive.
The downside of not building it yourself is probably things like this. Other wooden house manufacturers might have different options, I don't know.
Regards/Brelle
Our house supplier had no problems when we requested Masterfacade for plastering directly on them.
You screw the boards directly onto battens, then it's just a matter of priming and plastering.
The boards cost 215 SEK/sqm.
To plaster, you just need to rent a machine and plaster on ;D
You screw the boards directly onto battens, then it's just a matter of priming and plastering.
The boards cost 215 SEK/sqm.
To plaster, you just need to rent a machine and plaster on ;D
Since I'm starting to get paranoid and soon only see problems in everything (poor me :'( ) Masterfacade doesn't feel perfect either since it's screwed onto battens. What says that the boards can't pull away from each other or bulge so that the plaster cracks?Sweli said:
If only our choice of house model matched a wooden facade, I would have chosen that, but it doesn't suit wood at all. I don't care about more maintenance with wood. We have wood today, and it's about two weeks of work every eight years, so it's not a problem. I'd rather that than have the plaster fall off after twenty years.
When it comes to being maintenance-free, I probably value aluminum windows more than plaster.
But our house won't suit wood. Damn it! >
Oh well, it will probably hold up just fine with plaster... :-/
Plastered styrofoam nailed to a wooden structure? I thought styrofoam+plaster was intended as a stopgap solution for plastered stone houses that needed additional insulation ??? The more layers in a wall, the greater the chance something could go wrong, in my opinion. Why not go for a stone house with a plaster facade from the start (fewer work steps)? Is there still a significant difference in price?
The plaster holds if you don't paint it with dense plastic paint, if you don't insulate an old house from the inside (frost damage), if the house is not subjected to settling. A stone material can withstand moisture load better than wood and is not as sensitive to mold and fungi and can accumulate heat that a wooden house cannot. How much money is it worth beyond the appearance itself?
gaia
The plaster holds if you don't paint it with dense plastic paint, if you don't insulate an old house from the inside (frost damage), if the house is not subjected to settling. A stone material can withstand moisture load better than wood and is not as sensitive to mold and fungi and can accumulate heat that a wooden house cannot. How much money is it worth beyond the appearance itself?
gaia
Masterfacade panels are made of wood fiber and cement. We have had these panels without render since the end of March last year, exposed to rain and wind and winter and sun. They still look like new. I can't find the brochure that described exactly what they are made of. If you live in Stockholm, I recommend you go to Fredells and pick up a brochure and take a look at them. They have an exhibition there.Framerate said:Since I'm starting to get paranoid and soon only see problems in everything (poor me :'( ), Masterfacade doesn't feel perfect either because it's mounted on battens. What says the panels can't be pulled apart or bulge, causing the render to crack?
If only our choice of house model suited a wooden facade, I would have chosen it, but it doesn't fit in wood at all. The fact that there would be more maintenance with wood doesn't bother me. We have wood today, and it's about two weeks of work every eight years, so it's not a problem. Better that than the render falling off after twenty years.
When it comes to maintenance-freeness, I value aluminum windows higher than render.
But our house won't fit in wood. Crap! >
Oh well, the render will probably hold up just fine... :-/
More than recommending them from my own experience, I can't do; it's up to you.