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S Stefan1972 said:
But now I assume it wasn't about such damp paneling that that part should also cause problems? The basic question was still the growth that is quite common in timber bundles in most constructions.

Then as an answer to centano, sure. There are always people who are hypersensitive to everything, but maybe they shouldn't live in houses at all then? Reasoning in that way usually creates even more hypersensitive people in the long run if everything that is dangerous is to be completely erased. Just because a few people react to something doesn't mean you can make it general advice to exclude such things completely for everyone.
No, it is not common for interior wood such as ceiling paneling to be or be delivered damp and moldy. These wood materials should therefore absolutely not be stored in unheated spaces.
Thus, the requirement is a dry indoor climate both at the supplier and on the construction site.

This is followed at most construction sites because no builder has charged double to redo the work when the panel dries apart or is claimed due to microbial growth...

I don't understand at all why you're trying to downplay the seriousness of this, when there is a clear handling method that the market works by...
 
Rejäl said:
No, it is not common for internal wood like ceiling panels to be or be delivered damp and moldy. These wood materials should therefore absolutely not be stored in unheated spaces.
So the requirement is a dry indoor climate both with the supplier and on the construction site.

This is followed on most construction sites as no builder has charged double for the job to redo the work when the panel dries apart or is replaced due to microbial growth...

Why you are trying to downplay the seriousness of this I do not understand at all, as there is a clear handling method that the market works according to...
Stupid question maybe, but panels that didn't have visible damage on the surfaces, can they be damaged inside or would it have been visible on the outside as well? Worried considering that the carpenter sawed off bad pieces with visible damage on the outside, but put up parts of the same board that didn't have visible damage on the surface. So, can there be mold that isn't visible and is unhealthy?
 
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S Slottsfrun said:
Dumb question maybe, but panels that didn't have visible damage on the surfaces, could they be damaged inside, or would it have been visible on the outside as well? Worried because the carpenter sawed off bad pieces with visible damage on the outside but put up parts of the same board that didn't have visible damage on the surface. So, can there be mold that isn't visible and is hazardous?
Yes, it could absolutely have been there if the panels were so damp that microbial growth is visible in that way. But how did the panel become so damp?
 
Rejäl said:
Yes, that could definitely have happened if the panel was so damp that microbial growth is visible in that way...
But how has the panel become so damp?
So it starts from the inside and then seeps out to appear on the surface? Ugh, now I'm even more worried... does that mean the entire house could be full of mold, even if it's not visible on the outside of the panels? Do I need to tear everything up and replace it?

I have no idea why.
 
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S Slottsfrun said:
So it starts from the inside and then pushes out to be visible on the surface? Ugh, now I'm even more worried... does that mean the whole house can be full of mold, even if it's not visible on the outside of the panels? Do I need to tear everything out and install new ones?

I have no idea why.
No, it doesn't necessarily mean that, but you can't rule out that spores were on the board that was wet and he cut away the visible part.

But you're not answering why the panel was so wet? It looked like there was frost on one of the boards...
 
Rejäl said:
No, it doesn't have to mean that, but you can't rule out that spores were present on the board that was damp and he cut away the visible part.

But you're not answering why the panel was so damp? It looked like there was frost on one of the boards..
Yes, I answered that I don't know.
It had been stored indoors, dry and warm.
The frosty board was a discarded board that had been thrown outdoors.
 
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S Slottsfrun said:
Well, I answered that I don't know.
Had been stored indoors, dry and warm.
The frosty board was a discarded board that was thrown outdoors.
Impossible for such growth to occur in an indoor environment; they must have been stored outdoors...
 
Rejäl said:
Impossible for such growth to occur in an indoor environment, they must have been stored outdoors..
They were in packages so I first saw this when I opened them. I have no idea how they were stored before they came to me. Not all packages were affected, at least nothing I saw visually.
 
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S Slottsfrun said:
They were in packages so I saw this only when I opened them. How they were stored before they came to me, I have no idea. Not all packages were affected, at least not anything I saw visually.
Who delivered these panels to you?
 
Rejäl said:
Who delivered these panels to you?
Which carrier it was, I actually don't remember.
 
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S Slottsfrun said:
Which carrier it was, I actually don't remember.
So you have ordered and purchased the material yourself?
 
Rejäl said:
So you ordered and bought the material yourself?
Yes, exactly. Foolish as I was, I then trusted the carpenter who was supposed to set up the house. That it was no big deal and I just had to saw off the bad parts and discard the boards that were really bad. I should have obviously returned the whole lot, but I was eager to get the job done. Idiotic of me...
 
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S Slottsfrun said:
Yes, exactly. Foolishly, I trusted the carpenter who was supposed to put up the house. That it was no problem and just to cut away the bad parts and discard the boards that were really bad. I should have, of course, complained about the whole thing, but I was eager to get the job done. Foolish of me…
Panels that are wrapped in plastic should be cut open when brought inside to acclimate to the house's indoor environment; the same goes for parquet flooring which should be left a few days before installation.
 
Rejäl said:
Panels that are wrapped in plastic should be cut open during carrying in so that they acclimate to the indoor environment of the house; the same applies to parquet floors that they should be left for a few days before laying..
OK, what's done is done… the question is what do I do now…
 
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If you are not sensitive and bothered by it, just forget about it and move on, microbial growth stops when it dries up so it won't spread..
 
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