Hi! It's hard to choose the right headline...
But I have an old building on the property, building year unknown. Over the years it has been a smithy, workshop, garage, and a place for butchering animals after hunting, and soon it will have been in the family for 100 years just for unnecessary knowledge
What is always missing is a car lift of some kind inside, but there are two beams right across at about 2 meters high that are in the way whether a lift is going to be there or not. I checked today how it looks higher up towards the ridge and saw that there are collar ties (?) in all the roof trusses.
A picture of the beams I would like to remove is also included.
Is there any way to remodel to get rid of them or get them at a higher height?
Interior dimensions of the building are about 8*4m if that matters.
The total ceiling height is not optimal either, but if it can be improved by removing the beams, it will be sufficient so we don't have to build new.
Regards, Emil
Theoretically, it is possible to shift them sideways if you simultaneously reinforce the timber walls at the top. Ideally, you would do this with steel beams and steel rods. heimlaga's idea with two scissor trusses of iron is also conceivable in my opinion.
Theoretically, it is possible to shift them sideways if you simultaneously reinforce the log walls above. Ideally, this is done with steel beams and bars. heimlaga's idea with two iron scissors trusses is also conceivable in my opinion.
All ideas are good ideas, moving them was my thought as well but I believed they need to be at the distances that they are to distribute all the force evenly.
Perhaps combining the two, scissors trusses in steel with a bit longer distances might be the best if possible.
But the cheapest and simplest might be to move the existing ones or install new ones in wood...
Approximately 2.5m between them today, and there's a slightly shorter distance between the left one and the wall than the right one and the right wall, but haven't taken any measurements on that. The initial plan was to make a new entrance on the short side so the cars would be along the garage, and in that case, they would need to be moved quite a bit to be lifted properly, so in that scenario, it would be best if they could come up with something like scissor trusses. Today there are two doors on the long side, one of which is between the two beams, and a suitable 2-pillar lift would end up in the middle of the beams, but in that case, it could just as well be because of the narrow four meters in depth and possibly a small scissor lift being installed to ease things up a bit.
I hope I can find a solution that works for a few years, of course, I'd prefer to build bigger really but I might have to prioritize a little differently first
You need a disposable area of about 3x5 meters in the middle of the house. Moving the crossbeams won't do. The easiest solution is probably to replace them with two steel constructions. If you are handy with welding, you can do it yourself. It can be done with wood as well, but it will be bulkier. Approximately according to the following schematic:
Welding and rebuilding are no problem, but I don't take chances on how it should be constructed and material choices before anything is done.
Do you know of any picture of a building that shows how it might look according to your image? To get a better understanding of how it might look.
Bumping this thread again.
If you place, for example, glulam beams at the height of the existing beams along the walls from edge to edge, then similar glulam between the others. Either along the short walls or maybe one meter in if that would help. Like an internal frame as suggested earlier, but maybe add some supports down to the floor along the walls to help bear the weight. I'll try to draw a picture so it might be easier to understand what I mean. But if anyone might understand what I mean, could it work?
Possibly adding one or two triangular constructions in steel or glulam in the middle that follow the rafters to make it even more stable if that would help and is needed.
Continuing to nag in this thread and hoping for answers, I've now started looking at this again after some time.
When I removed one of the ports and braced up the hole that was created and then installed a door instead, I discovered that one of the beams, the one that's mostly in the way, seems to be completely loose at one end.
It probably got loose and maybe some fastening was removed when they installed the garage door I just removed, that door has been there for at least 20 years.
Tried to film how loose it is:
In my opinion, it doesn't serve any purpose now other than being in the way, and if nothing has happened with the roof or the walls in all these years, I should just as well be able to remove it entirely?
Or am I missing something in my thinking?
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