Hello,

We are in the process of completing our wall and are considering installing some type of light. Here is what one of the towers looks like:

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https://i.imgur.com/z9XcDOi.jpg

Right now, they are hollow, but I have purchased fine concrete to fill them with.

However, a couple of questions arise:

1. Is it sensible to install lights in the towers this way? What issues might arise?
2. My idea is to drill a hole in the bottom brick and insert flexible conduit in the tower before the casting is done. Is there a better alternative?
3. Suggestions for suitable lighting/fixtures? Ideally, it should be something where you don't need to shape the wall tower according to the fixture, or alternatively, where you can replace the light source when it eventually goes out.
 
The absolutely easiest thing is to install solar-powered lamps with a dusk relay, so it takes care of itself.
 
Hmm, want something more discreet. Perhaps it would look nice to place an LED strip on the underside of the top stone? Are there LED strips that can be installed outdoors?

By the way, I've now cast the towers, and I embedded a 16 mm flexible conduit.

The plan is not to wire electricity at the moment, but I want to prepare for it. So I'll probably cut it so that the flexible conduit comes out in the middle just below the top stone on the front of the towers.

The idea, apart from looking good, is that it will help when backing in late at night.
 
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You could add a stone slab of the same material as the rest of the wall and mount a lamp on top. There are different models for mounting on gate posts;
https://www.elonline.se/category/stolpar-grindstolpelyktor?sortBy=default&page=1 https://www.lampgallerian.se/lampor/utomhusbelysning/fotlykta/

Or maybe you could achieve a solution like this
Stone posts with built-in glass lamps on a paved area surrounded by rocks, possibly part of a garden or plaza lighting design.
with glass bricks http://vetro.se/produktkategori/glasblock-glastegel/glastegel-glasblock-glastegel/ and a lid of the same stone as the rest of the wall?
 
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Thank you,

Option 1 will make the towers over 50 cm high, which I assume then requires a building permit.

Option 2 I'm quite sure the towers are already on the verge of 50 cm, so in that case, I have to cut away a layer of stone. It also requires specific sizes of glass blocks, which might be available; you probably can't cut the blocks with a regular glass cutter directly. It could have been a nice solution!
 
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Gammelnörden Gammelnörden said:
According to the Malmö city's website, it is a wall over 40 cm that requires a building permit. To keep the view clear at exits, it is generally 80 cm that applies. Is it really so that the lamp is considered a wall? If you think it could be an option, you can always call and ask if a gatepost with a lamp is considered a wall.
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Well, I familiarized myself with the rules before we built the wall, and we live in Kristiastad, where they say that if the wall is under 0.5 meters, no building permit is required:

If the construction is more than 0.5 meters above the ground on any side, a building permit is required. If it is lower, no building permit is required.
https://www.kristianstad.se/globalassets/dokument/bygga-bo-och-miljo/murplank.pdf

The foundation for the wall was already there, and previously there was a fence that we sawed down and then replaced with a clearly lower wall. It is only the towers that really reach up to about 50 cm.

But regardless, this is a bit off topic, thank you for the reminder.
 
One lighting option I've been considering is something like this:

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https://www.jula.se/catalog/el-och-...adgardsbelysning/decklights-led-000777/#tab04

They require a 30 mm hole, and I would need to place it a bit lower for it to look nice, perhaps 5-10 cm from the top stone.

The disadvantage is that they shine straight out, and there's a risk they might dazzle. Another alternative in that case is these:

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However, it would probably look best if the lighting shines down on the stone from above, which brings us back to an LED strip under the top stone, or possibly these:

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https://www.jula.se/catalog/el-och-...ing/tradgardsbelysning/downlights-led-000775/

However, they require a 100 mm recess which feels a bit much, and generally a bit too large for the small towers. Additionally, it's uncertain how well they will actually shine down on the stone below.

An LED strip on the underside of the top stone feels like a simple solution, but the problem is hiding the cables. One possible approach is to route the flexible conduit out in the middle of the tower just below the top stone, then cut grooves in the underside of the top stone to run cables to one side, for example, the right side for connection to the LED strip. However, if it needs to be replaced in the future, the exit for the flexible conduit just below the top stone might become a problem. Then again, I suspect the LED strip needs to be placed in some form of casing anyway, and in that case, the cable could just as well run inside this casing as long as it doesn't go over the diodes.
 
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Gammelnörden Gammelnörden said:
It might be easier to hide and protect an LED strip in a removable "lid" made of gray-painted metal?
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Link to page with outdoor LED and accessories;
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Interesting idea! However, I've already bought topstone in the same material as what's on the wall. BUT what one could do is run the electricity on the back side of the tower instead, just under the topstone, and then cut a slit in the topstone where you can either place a cable or an LED strip. The important thing, of course, is that the cuts aren't too deep so that the stone is at risk of breaking, but if you lower it 5 mm, there's still 25 mm material left. However, it might not be so easy to saw a given depth with a simple angle grinder :)

Anyway, if one were to change the solution from an underlying LED strip, one could place the power cable in the groove instead of the LED strip. This would mean, of course, that the new solution must also sit just under the topstone, but that shouldn't be a problem.
 
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Actually, it would probably have been best if the top stone could be temporarily attached until deciding what kind of lighting should be installed, if any at all.

Is there anything that could be used to attach the stone that holds reasonably well but can be removed when I eventually install lighting?

Double-sided carpet tape doesn't feel very secure, a bit of stone adhesive maybe, but it's expensive for just a few drops and the risk is that it sets like a rock anyway. Maybe a couple of clicks of Tec7?
 
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