I have previously asked in the forum about what the following material could be. See the first image below! I suspected that the brown material, wrapped with wire around an old water pipe, might be asbestos. I received a response here on the forum that no, it most likely was not asbestos. Someone mentioned cowhair or something similar. I have googled cowhair insulation, but can't find anything that looks like what I have around my pipe.

However, I have now, unfortunately, found the following image online. See image number two. The image comes from an asbestos removal company's website. The brown material is asbestos. Read the text directly under the image. This material, just like mine, is wrapped with wire. If the image may not be used in this forum, due to copyright etc., I will of course remove it immediately. Just let me know if I did something wrong by attaching it here, in my post.

I was, of course, very confused... It seems that the material I have and this are very similar. Could it really be that I have asbestos around the pipe after all?!

If anyone has seen similar material, maybe analyzed it, who knows the difference between cowhair or other harmless materials versus the asbestos wrapping described in image number two, I would gratefully receive information. Can you tell the difference? If so, how? Or is there not even cowhair used as insulation around pipes? Maybe someone earlier just guessed without knowing themselves. What do I know?

I have asked a lot about asbestos in the forums, I know, but this really worried me when I found this image... That's why I'm asking again. Hoping for understanding and good advice!

Brown fibrous material wrapped with wire around a pipe, possibly asbestos, similar to an example from an asbestos removal company's website.

Brown asbestos insulation wrapped around a pipe with wire, showing similar material to another online image from an asbestos removal company.
 
it is mentioned in the text that the asbestlindan is inside the insulation, + the white paint contains asbestos!

the insulation is probably nöthårsfiltmatta in both pictures?
 
I understood it as the brown part being the actual linda.
Maybe I got it wrong.
But what/where else is the linda?
 
Felt like the brown was called asbestlinda, it's wrapped around the pipe as well,
With the steel wire around it.

But you mean that it's the white that you see under the brown, which is some form of wrapping?
I thought the white innermost part is the actual pipe.
 
No KnockOnWood, maybe you think I'm a real nut, but I'm not afraid of coconuts myself. :)

I also think the last picture resembles coconut fibers, but what I have around the pipe is not as coarse.
I've had a coconut fiber doormat, so in that case, I actually know what I'm talking about.
What's around my pipe is not as coarse and not as "compact" as picture 2 looks, and as coconut fiber is.
You can easily tear pieces off my material; it comes off very easily.

And by the way, there is brown asbestos, right? It's a more dangerous type than the white one, if I remember correctly.

I don't understand what people mean when they write about nut hair felt mat.
I haven't found anything about it online, other than fine mats used in the home.
 
If there were to be asbestos somewhere under the paint, it is completely harmless as long as you don't disturb it.

Even IF you were to tear it up, it is harmless for you, it is only with extremely long (many years) occupational exposure that asbestos can have negative health effects.
 
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It actually states clearly that the asbestos wrapping is inside the insulation (which is brown), thus the asbestos wrapping is white in the picture, and the brown is not asbestos.
 
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Old pipes sometimes had a white wrap of a few mm that adheres to the pipe and is often asbestos. The brown felt is what is usually called coconut fiber felt/mat and is harmless. Outside, in addition to paper, there can be gauze, cotton wrap with various binding agents, some of which also contain asbestos.

Using asbestos throughout as insulation is extremely rare in residences; it belongs in high-temperature applications like steam pipes industrially on ships, etc.

If you're worried, take some of the felt and test it with a lighter; it's simple and can help you rule out asbestos. It must be hard to constantly worry about something as relatively insignificant as you and some others do here in various threads.
 
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Thanks for the responses everyone! Appreciated!

So you think that the brown in my picture and picture number 2 look like the same material.
I'm a bit doubtful.
Picture two looks more "compact" and rough.
My brown material is more "loose," easily crumbles if you touch it.
Extremely easy to tear off a piece, it doesn't hold together very well.
Maybe picture 2 is coconut fiber and mine is something else.
Irrelevant really, I'm just satisfied as long as it's not asbestos.

By the way, does anyone here have a link to a picture of older cow hair felt/carpet?
And/or info on how and for what this material was used in the past.
It would be interesting to see a picture and read a bit, but I haven't managed to find any good information online myself.

Wishing everyone a lovely autumn day. The sun is shining! :)
 
"bilingual" in my comment above was wrong, should be "two".. :)
 
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Do you think that the brown material in my picture and in picture number 2 looks like the same material?
I'm a bit uncertain.
But why on earth are you sitting and comparing textures on blurry images?!

Read the text! It says that the asbestos is located inside the brown insulation.
 
They really want to find asbestos, obviously.
 
Hi Stina, if you keep at it, there might be a risk that you find asbestos in the pipe wrap under your porous "nöthår." I had something similar around a couple of old pipes as well. Now, I knew it was lin in my case, but it looks the same as what you have. Lin or in some cases nöthår has good properties, as it keeps away condensation and it doesn’t "rot." It could possibly be some other natural fiber material. Strongly guessing it’s lin!
Insulation-fluffy material of unknown origin
wrap-like it sounds, a wrap similar to a thicker gauze bandage if you injure your foot, for example! :)
 
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Thank you to those who give me constructive answers!

Pagno, I don't know if there is a linda under my brown insulation.
If that is the case, can I let it stay or should I have it removed?
Did you let your linda stay under what was lin, in your case, or did you remove the linda?
 
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