Hello!

I'm in the process of renovating an apartment and considering tearing down part of a wall between the hallway and the kitchen so that the doorway becomes significantly larger. I'm fairly sure the wall is not load-bearing, but I thought I'd ask here anyway.

The wall in question is quite thin, about 10 centimeters. When I knock on it, it sounds more or less hollow. On the other side of the hallway and parallel to the wall in question is a significantly thicker wall (20-25 centimeters) that sounds very solid when I knock on it.

To check the situation a bit more thoroughly, I knocked off some plaster from the wall I want to tear down. It's wood inside. I guess you don't build load-bearing walls out of wood in apartment buildings, right? (The building is from the 50s or 60s and there is an entire floor and some sort of attic above my apartment)

Can this wall be demolished without worry? How sure are you that this is the case? Is there anything else one can do to confirm that a wall is not load-bearing (besides bringing in a structural engineer)?
 
Perhaps it could be a good idea to ask the homeowner who would reasonably have the plans of the house, there could be electricity in the wall, for example.
 
Have asked, there are no drawings. Attaching a picture here. Grateful for an answer!

Partially demolished room with exposed walls and missing wallpaper, showing a doorway leading to another dimly lit room. Tools visible in the foreground.
 
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yes there are multi-storey buildings with load-bearing wooden walls.
it's hard to say if it is load-bearing how does the roof (trusses) go in relation to your wall
 
What cc are the studs? Is there a load-bearing beam above the storage?
 
They go perpendicular to this wall.

I've googled a bit more and am now inclined to think the wall is a "kloasongvägg". Planks, chicken wire, reeds, plaster. Doesn't seem to be load-bearing.

But if anyone has more input or knows anything about kloasongväggar, please feel free to write!
 
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poitsu said:
What is the cc of the studs? Is there a header beam above the door?
I don't think you know what a timber wall is.
 
Do you have a lintel above the door? (Thick horizontal beam)
Do you have concrete walls otherwise?
Clock walls can be load-bearing with tighter spacing.
 
No, I am not familiar with timmerväggar.
 
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coldmejl said:
They go perpendicular to this wall.

I've googled a bit more and now I'm leaning towards the wall being a "kloasongvägg". Planks, chicken wire, reed, plaster. Doesn't seem to be load-bearing.

But if anyone has more input or knows anything about kloasongväggar, please share!
did you also have the attic on you? do the floor beams run the same way as the rafters?
 
poitsu: what studs? there don't seem to be any studs in the wall in question - the planks are vertical (see image)
 
I apologize, I didn't see the attached image after sbh mentioned the timber wall, which I'm not knowledgeable about.
 
SBH said:
Did you have the attic above you as well? Are the floor beams going in the same direction as the rafters?
Yep, a regular floor (residential apartments) above me, plus the attic.

I'll try to figure out how the floor beams run tomorrow!

But as I wrote earlier, there is another wall in the apartment that runs parallel to the wall I want to tear down (but perpendicular to the rafters) that is significantly thicker and likely concrete all the way through. It glimpses in the background of the photo I posted earlier, it's the one out in the hallway.
 
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poitsu said:
I apologize, I didn't see the attached image after sbh mentioned the log wall which I am not knowledgeable about
common for basement/ground floor to be masonry or cast, then the floors above to be in logs.
 
poitsu said:
Do you have a lintel above the door? (Thick horizontal beam)
Do you have concrete walls otherwise?
Clock walls can be load-bearing with tighter cc
I don't think there's a thick beam above the door, but I'll check tomorrow.

Concrete walls otherwise, yes. The other three walls in the kitchen are concrete (one is an exterior wall), as is the wall on the other side of the hall in the photo (I think).
 
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