We previously had an earthen floor in one of the barns, but now we're going to pour a "slab" for easier handling of our wood stacks. We would like to remove or cut the floor beam shown in the picture (red arrow) so that you can get through with a pallet jack. Is this even possible, or does it have too much of a load-bearing function? I think that if you saw a hole in the middle, there is a risk for the walls to "move outward." How should one proceed? Drive threaded rods into the floor beam and cast them into the floor? I've attached some pictures showing how it looks in that part of the barn. There is already an existing cast floor in half of the space; we will pour where the white fabric is.
I think you are right in that the beam "holds" the walls together.
But it doesn't have to be a beam/log, you could maybe get the same function from a wire between the walls.
It is mounted to hold the walls together. It can be replaced in many different ways. For example, attach the wall to the concrete slab you are going to cast instead.
I think you're right in saying that the beam holds the walls "together."
But it doesn't necessarily have to be a beam/log, you could perhaps achieve the same function with a wire between the walls.
/ATW
That's a good idea. Do you have any idea how one could attach it? If you look at image 1 and 2, there is a beam a couple of meters up that is already cut, so the construction is already weakened.
it is mounted to hold the walls together. Can be replaced in many different ways. For example, attach the wall to the concrete slab you are going to cast instead.
You don't have to remove the entire beam completely, right? It's enough if most of it disappears, isn't it? Can't you put some sturdy iron in the beam so that the iron gets stuck in the casting you do afterward? That should prevent the structure from collapsing when you then cut the beam (and only leave the stumps with the iron).
You don't have to remove the entire beam, do you? It should be enough if most of it is gone, right? Can't you put some sturdy rebar into the beam so that the rebar anchors into the casting you do later? That should prevent the structure from bulging out when you then cut the beam (leaving only the stumps with the rebar).
No, the whole thing doesn't need to be removed. It's enough if I can get through with a pallet jack. I've been considering doing what you mentioned. Do you think one would also need to drive some rebar into the sills and set them in concrete?
maybe misunderstood? if you are going to cast a slab over the entire area inside the log, it can be replaced with a couple of sturdy angle irons that are bolted into the concrete and into the log's attachment to the wall, then the concrete holds the walls in place! (or just twist the bracket shown in image 3 under the fire extinguisher and bolt it into the concrete slab)
olgapersson said:
If you look at images 1 and 2, there's a beam a couple of meters up that has already been sawed off, so the construction is already weakened.
did that beam really run all the way between the walls? or was it that short from the start just to brace the eaves/wall?
maybe misunderstood? if you are going to cast a slab over the entire area inside the timber, it can be replaced with a couple of strong angle irons that bolt into the concrete and into the timber's attachment to the wall, then the concrete holds the walls in place! (or just turn the bracket visible in image 3 under the fire extinguisher and bolt it to the concrete slab)
has that beam really gone all the way between the walls? or was it that short from the start just to brace the eaves/wall?
Would venture to say that you are on the right track, the function was to hold in 3 points, or it was a "skulle" that was removed later.
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