Is it reasonable with 142 working hours?

[Spagna]

wondering about working hours in an apartment if it can be reasonable, wall spackling and painting of walls and laying a wooden parquet floor in the kitchen, hall, and bedroom. Wallpapering of two feature walls,

demolition of part of walls (non-load-bearing) 245x100, 245x150, 245x150 and construction of a wall 245x150 cm. removal of old floors in the hall and bedroom, demolition of a wardrobe and new sliding doors and metal fittings (very simple without wardrobe walls). Could it be reasonable with 142 working hours, 68,000 kr before the ROT deduction. Hope someone wants to answer =)

 

[Barnrikehuset]

There is quite a lot of work done. Have electricians and plumbers been involved as well?

Now it's difficult to understand exactly what they've done based on your description, so this is how I (who am not a craftsman) would have estimated the job.

Demolition of two floors and removal 8h
Floor installation 1 day/room x 3 rooms = 24h
Wallpapering of 2 walls and painting and plastering of 10 walls. 3 days = 24h
Demolition of 3 walls and removal of material 16h
Construction of a stud wall with drywall 8h
Demolition of closet 2h
New (built-in) closet with sliding doors and interior 16h (including removal of material and delivery of sliding doors)
Trim for 3 rooms (floor, ceiling, window doors) 3 days 24h

Grand total:
122h*500SEK=61000SEK

 

[thomasx]

Given the info, yes it can be reasonable. It can even be cheap, depending on the circumstances
But it can also be excessive, depending on the circumstances.

 

[thomasx]

That's quite a bit of work done. Have there been electricians and plumbers involved as well?

Now, it's hard to understand exactly what they've done from your description, so this is how I (not being a craftsman) would have estimated the work.

Demolition of two floors and removal 8h
Flooring 1 day/room x 3 rooms =24h
Wallpapering of 2 walls and painting and filling of 10 walls. 3 days = 24h
Demolition of 3 walls and removal of materials 16h
Construction of a stud wall with plaster 8h
Demolition of a wardrobe 2h
New (fixed) wardrobe with sliding doors and fittings 16h (incl. removal of materials and delivery of sliding doors)
Moldings for 3 rooms (floor, ceiling, window doors) 3 days 24h

Grand total:
122h*500SEK=61000SEK

Then are you assuming that all materials are on-site from the start, purchased and brought in by TS?

 

[Spagna]

Thank you for your answers, no plumber but electricity was in the wall, the electrician's bill is not included in these 142 hours, I paid that separately. The purchase and transportation of materials are included in these hours. They have most of the materials in their premises.

 

[Spagna]

what do you think about the picture (listen)?

 

[thomasx]

But wait a minute, which parts of the picture were recently made by craftsmen?
Wall spackled and painted? New or old list mounted?

 

[Spagna]

The wall is plastered and painted, and the trim is new. So that's why 142 hours feels like a lot when you see the result, or what do you think?

 

[KnockOnWood]

The wall is spackled and painted and the trim is new. So that's why 142 hours feel like a lot when you see the result, or what do you think?

Well, the baseboard isn't new, is it?
I think it looks pretty okay, considering how funnily the door frame is cut.

 

[Barnrikehuset]

The baseboard is loosened (removed with the floor and put on with the new one) and then pushed back, I would guess. The nails don't even seem to be nailed in.

The question is how much time you save by doing it this way, I once removed moldings in a room and it wasn't easy to put everything back together (took a bit less time than making new ones but looked much worse).

A tip is not to use pre-painted ones next time (looks like those). It looks much nicer if you paint them.

So not particularly nice but in line with the old (just a bit shabbier) on the molding side. It's probably possible to make it look nice with a nail punch, putty, latex caulk, and then touch-up painting with S0502Y color. Maybe a small quarter round as well between the floor and baseboard.

What's funny about the door casing?

My time estimate didn't include much material fetching, but some (not an exact science this).

But I assess that the hours aren't completely unreasonable at least. Craftsmen are EXPENSIVE, I try to do as much as possible myself nowadays (also, you understand why you take certain shortcuts, even if there's a big difference between the craftsmen's shortcuts and your own since everyone is selfish...).

 

[thomasx]

Exactly, it looks terrible. The molding is old and appears both nailed and glued. The nails are probably old and might just be bent over at the back. As mentioned, they stick out at the front! It also looks sloppily glued.

The plastering also seems to be subpar, with a hole in the plaster right in the corner. Then it looks like wallpaper that stops just before the corner from both directions.

No, for me, that's unacceptable. Do it again and do it right, I say.

Note: Based on the "limited" info the picture and description provide.

 

[hantverkare1]

what do you think about the picture (listen)?

Looks like they really failed to plaster in the corner reinforcement.
The plinth is NOT new.

How can you leave it like that?
Would be embarrassed!

 

[hantverkare1]

Can you get a picture from further away? It looks like the floor is against the frame and not underneath, also I think it looks like the metal strip is sitting strangely.

 

[Demmpa]

The middle shelf is old, the small short one looks new, it's hard to say with the long one. It looks like there's wallpaper on the "middle wall" that they haven't puttied over the edges of, it just seems to be painted.

 

[Spagna]

Here comes another picture