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Is it possible to pressure test the wind shelter when the house is being built?
Never heard of anyone pressure testing a wind barrier... You check with the naked eye that the installation looks okay. It's very simple, is the wind barrier everywhere? Is the wind barrier securely attached? Are the seams taped with age-resistant tape? So finished, it's absolutely not science. Save pressure testing for when it's needed and make it useful instead. For the vapor barrier.
What do you mean, if you live in a windy place, you must make sure the air doesn't blow through the insulation, and that can require high precision in installation. You don't want to pay full price for questionable insulation effectiveness, do you??B Bläcktudan said:
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· Stockholm
· 715 posts
In most cases, there is usually a cladding in the form of plaster, boards, sheet metal, or another suitable surface layer outside the inner wind protection. It has to be quite windy for there to be such violent air movements in the insulation behind the wind protection that it loses its insulating capability.S SNf said:
It's obviously important that the wind protection doesn't look like a chicken wire. It should be intact and not have visible holes. That's more than enough for the purpose. In this case, it is exterior gypsum of unknown manufacture with taped seams. It will do the job as long as no one creates a lot of holes in it.
I'll try to explain a little. You can't pressure test the wind barrier. It's a wind barrier and is not airtight like plastic wrap. Air should be able to pass through the gypsum but not wind. An exterior wall consists of several layers that together form the building envelope. The panel or whatever facade cladding you have is the first proper wind barrier. Then comes the exterior gypsum which should be taped at the joints and at various penetrations.
What I advise you to do if you feel uncertain about your builder's competence is to turn off all lights inside on a bright day and go around inspecting the gypsum from the inside by looking for slivers of light. If you find any, mark them and ask your builder to tape them.
The exterior gypsum is windproof if the installation instructions have been followed. It's not something that needs or can be pressure tested.
What I advise you to do if you feel uncertain about your builder's competence is to turn off all lights inside on a bright day and go around inspecting the gypsum from the inside by looking for slivers of light. If you find any, mark them and ask your builder to tape them.
The exterior gypsum is windproof if the installation instructions have been followed. It's not something that needs or can be pressure tested.
Unfortunately, you cannot see all the seams because the inner frame obscures the view in many places.Matti_75 said:
I will try to explain a little. You cannot pressure test the windproofing. It is a windproofing barrier and is not airtight like plastic film. Air should be able to pass through the gypsum but not wind. An exterior wall consists of several layers that together form the building envelope. The panel or whatever facade cladding you have is the first real windproofing barrier. Then comes the exterior gypsum, which should be taped at seams and various penetrations.
What I advise you to do if you are unsure about your builder's competence is to on a bright day, turn off all the interior lights and walk around inspecting the gypsum from the inside by looking for light streaks. If you find any, mark them and ask your builder to tape them.
The exterior gypsum is wind-tight if you have followed the installation instructions. It is something that cannot be or is not needed to be pressure tested
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· Västernorrland
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It should be emphasized that if it is built in the normal way, it will be sufficiently tight. Unless the original poster assumes that those who are building cannot build houses and were picked up from the street in the shadier areas of T-Centralen?
Everyone can make mistakes, even skilled craftsmen (my builders are really good). There are hundreds of tape sealings. It's not surprising if something would be missed.S Stefan1972 said:
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· Västernorrland
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Admittedly, but it almost feels like you assume everything will go wrong. A single taping mistake doesn't make everything go awry. It's not the tape itself that makes it airtight. The difference between a well-built untaped house versus a taped one is probably not very significant.R Robert20 said:
And it will have a marginal, probably no, impact. As advice, I would let go of the outer shell/weatherproofing and instead focus on ensuring the insulation is done properly and the inner seal. Having led some large projects, one conducts a risk analysis, prioritizes, and puts more focus on what can have the biggest impact. This can also be applied to smaller projects like a house build.R Robert20 said:
If some taping has been missed, it's no catastrophe. It doesn't matter much, put effort into more important parts of the construction instead.R Robert20 said:
YepI Installation said:In applicable cases, it's usually a cladding in the form of plaster, boards, sheet metal, or other suitable surface layer outside the inner wind barrier. It would need to be quite windy to cause such violent air movements in the insulation behind the wind barrier that it loses its insulating ability.
Obviously, the wind barrier shouldn't look like chicken wire. It should be intact without visible holes. That is more than sufficient for the purpose. In this case, it's external gypsum of unknown brand with taped joints. It will do the job as long as no one drills a lot of holes into it.
I have contacted a company that creates a negative pressure in the house, and then performs leak detection, i.e., feels where there is draft/blowing. This can be done either with smoke (as used by ventilation technicians) or simply by going close and feeling.
It should work.
Thanks for all the opinions and thoughts.
It should work.
Thanks for all the opinions and thoughts.