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you mean that simple gypsum and studs are enough?
the best thing about having two layers is you replace one sheet with plywood
 
Consider how good sound insulation you want and choose the door and wall construction accordingly. Soundproof doors are significantly more expensive than regular interior doors. An advantage of choosing thicker walls from the start is that the doors can easily be replaced over time.
 
Due to space reasons, the walls can't be as thick as would be optimal for sound.
We are building a small villa with small rooms. But of course, we want to make it as good as possible given the conditions.
We have prioritized OSB/Plywood instead of double gypsum to be able to attach shelves, etc. The walls are 45x2 crossed (70 total), 2xosb11, 2xgypsumx13mm = 118mm total.
A solution that might improve sound is to replace OSB with gypsum and screw horizontal studs into the walls to hang things from.
A 35db door seems to cost around 3000kr, by the way.
 
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skip OSB if you want good grip in the wall.
no, it won't be cheaper if you have sound requirements
 
118 mm is sufficient to build a good sound-insulating wall. If you use metal studs and Fermacell's fiber gypsum boards, you can achieve an R'w 55 dB wall that you can screw things onto, so you can avoid using osb.
 
Hi FG-
What you are writing sounds awesome.
Is there a page with examples for the wall you are describing? and that shows how it is constructed?
 
Thank you FG,
Yes, there are many places where sound can leak, that's true. One solution might be to have one layer of regular drywall/side and one layer of Farmacell. Good for sound, less good for the wallet....
 
Many also have exhaust air connected to the master bedroom if you have a large wardrobe or walk-in closet. This way, you can do without air transfer devices.
 
Smart- big mike:)
 
What is the sound that needs to be dampened?
Budget?
 
It's not really possible to say, but the thread began with the idea that the door is the weak point in the whole system, and is there any point in, for example, making a wall with all possible sound solutions that can handle 50dB when the door measures at 20dB?
 
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A good door has a sound rating of 35db, without ventilation. Is it then meaningful to make a wall that can handle 50db? Or do we get the same sound result with a "regular" wall that handles 35db?
 
Of course, the construction is only as good as its weakest link. As you said, it's pointless to have a sturdy wall if there's a centimeter gap at the threshold.

If you choose a wall construction classified as 50 dB R´w, it implies values measured in a lab environment. In reality, one can expect slightly worse results. However, the wall is usually built more robustly than the door. For example, if you choose a 35dB door, it's appropriate to have a 45 dB wall. There are, of course, doors with higher sound ratings, but they come at a higher cost.

You'll simply have to consider whether you think the cost is justified. If you look at Fermacell walls that are around 50 dB, they are not particularly advanced constructions. There's also the option to dampen sound with absorbers in the rooms. Ceiling absorbers, wall absorbers, thick carpets/curtains, etc. It all depends on how much you dislike noise and how thick your wallet is.
 
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