Apparently, the ceiling must be 2.40 meters high to have the room approved as a living area. The beams are at 2 meters, so what do you do? Can the beams be placed on top of the outer walls, or do they need to be in tension so the walls don't collapse inward?
We are going to replace the roof and roof beams at the same time. We want to have it partly open and preferably with visible beams or rafters, depending on what works best, and in other places, a small loft, but there is little space on the upper floor as well.
1800s house in sandstone brick.
 
  • Ceiling beams in a room with light-colored walls, considering renovation for more height and visible beams.
Are you going to renovate or extend? I don't think I have 2.40 anywhere in our house, built in 1936..
 
plåtrickard plåtrickard said:
Are you planning to renovate or extend? I don't think I have 2.40 anywhere in our house, built in 1936..
Renovate and reclassify an outbuilding to a residence. During renovation, for example, of a bathroom in the residential part, the new regulations apparently also apply.
 
Why reclassify ?
 
Jonatan79 Jonatan79 said:
Why reclassify?
Because we will use it as a residence and not as a stable. I suppose one should do this in order for the house's value to increase with more living space and correct insurance.
 
How high is it to the ceiling? We are not counting the beams. Are you going to apply for a building permit or building notification? If so, how?
 
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L Lotta100 said:
Because we are going to use it as a residence and not as a stable.
A stable you say.. it's not always so bad with a stable..
My wife says I am like a real stallion sometimes..
Then she puts me out in a shed where I can snort for a while...
I would much rather stand in a low stable for a couple of hours now and then if I could choose for myself...
 
L Lotta100 said:
Convert and reclassify a utility building into a residence. In the renovation of, for example, a bathroom in the residential part, apparently the new regulations also apply.
What regulations are you thinking of?

There are countless homes in the countryside with a ceiling height lower than 2.40.

And even more barns/stables, where raising the roof is so technically complicated and therefore expensive, that it becomes more economically justifiable to demolish the building and construct something new.
 
Jonatan79 Jonatan79 said:
How high is it to the ceiling? We don't count the beams. Are you going to apply for a building permit or a construction notification? If so, how?
215 and 2 to the beam. However, we need to insulate the slab and install underfloor heating. Either with a mechanical ventilated floor or breaking up, so more height in between won't happen anyway. We have been informed by the municipality that they count the free height in the whole room and that it applies to the beam, not in between.
It will be a building permit as we are also going to move a bathroom.
 
S skogaliten said:
Which rules are you thinking of?

There are countless homes in the countryside with ceilings lower than 2.40.

And even more barns/stables, where raising the roof is so technically complicated and thereby expensive, that it's more economically justifiable to demolish the building and construct something new.
BBR.
Yes, that's my thought as well, but if we are going to have a residence in the stable, the new rules apply. Inside the house, it's okay with lower ceilings as long as you don't move the kitchen, bathroom, etc., because then you need to get planning permission, which then follows the new regulations.
So one should probably avoid moving these, then.
 
Okay, how does it look in the attic? You probably need completely new roof trusses.
 
Jonatan79 Jonatan79 said:
Ok, how does it look in the attic? You probably need completely new roof trusses.
We will probably install completely new ones.
Will that help us to be able to remove joists and move them up onto the walls instead of inside the walls?
In the bathroom where the requirement is only 2.10, this would have helped. Can trusses rest on the walls and then in theory you can remove the joists. We will, of course, have it calculated, but mostly want to know if the ceiling height is wishful thinking.
 
Yes, it is usually possible to build like that.
 
Jonatan79 Jonatan79 said:
Yes, it usually works to build like that.
Is it likely that there is a similar setup in the main house as in the picture, with an underram on the roof beam placed on the exterior wall, and then a beam embedded in the wall? So, the one that is too low and needs to be raised or removed?
 
  • Roof structure with wooden beams, one embedded in the wall, possibly requiring adjustment or removal, against a brick wall background.
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