We have just moved into a house and need to mount a heavier lamp (approximately 5 KG) in the kitchen similar to this one:
The kitchen ceiling consists of some type of raw pine board that is about 1.5 cm thick. Under the raw pine board, there is the original ceiling, which is probably also made of some form of wood, likely masonite or something similar.
The previous owner has just screwed in a hook about 5 mm in diameter directly into the raw pine board where they had their kitchen lamp. If I pull on the hook, I notice that the raw pine board bends a bit. I am definitely skeptical about hanging our heavy lamp on this hook.
So the question is how to do this, how do I fasten it in a reasonable way?
If it's råspont, you don't need to worry about a 5kg lamp. With a slightly larger hook, you can easily hang a swing! It's worse in modern houses with plasterboard ceilings!
If it's tongue and groove, you don't need to worry about a 5kg lamp. With a slightly larger hook you can easily hang a swing! It's worse in modern houses with plasterboard ceilings!
Wow, is it that sturdy? You do get a bit worried when you see the boards flexing when you pull on the hook.
Here's what it looks like:
Here's what the lamp looks like (IKEA):
So you're saying it's fine if I just use a heavier hook? How heavy of a hook would you choose?
That tongue-and-groove ceiling is not the original ceiling; it was installed much later than when the house was built. I would guess the house is older than '78.
You need to check what the original ceiling is made of; possibly there's tongue-and-groove timber just over the old inner ceiling, so a hook that goes in at least 60mm with a thread at least 40mm might work.
That panelled ceiling is not the original ceiling; it was added much later than when the house was built. I'd guess the house is older than '78.
You need to check what the original ceiling is made of; possibly it's panelled wood right above the old ceiling, so a hook that goes in at least 60mm with a thread of at least 40mm might possibly work.
The old ceiling might be a concrete ceiling.
No, exactly, the panelled ceiling is, as I mentioned, mounted on top of the original ceiling, and I don't know what that is. However, in almost all the other rooms, the ceiling looks something like what you glimpse under the planking in the kitchen. The same kind of hook holder and contact exist in the other rooms, so I assume it's only in the kitchen that they chose to put planking directly on the original ceiling.
I'm a bit unsure about how to proceed with this, though. How do I figure out how long a hook I need and if it will support the lamp? I can, of course, drill a deep hole almost up to the attic and place the hook there, but that doesn't feel very professional. The house has a wooden frame with a concrete basement and was indeed built earlier than '78, more precisely '71.
If you remove the ceiling junction box/ceiling socket in one or more places, you might be able to see what the ceiling consists of and how thick the parts are.
You can also go up to the attic and see how it looks.
None of us can say exactly how long a screw/hook you should have until you provide detailed information on how the ceiling is constructed.
In my previous post, I gave a suggestion for hook length that only applies under the conditions I mentioned.
By measuring how far from different walls you want the hook, you can then measure on the attic to determine whether the hook will hit a roof truss or not.
You can also lift the insulation and place a piece of wood if you are worried that the original ceiling plus the new one won't support the lamp.
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