jonastroms
Now it's time to change cars. I've had a regular Volvo V70 wagon for the past few years and have been completely satisfied with it, but now it's time for a new car or not new but better used.

I've been in contact with many car dealers now and sometimes you get scared of what they'll do to sell something. I don't trust anyone anymore :) But I think the major ones like Riddermark and ALD-bil might be worth considering, maybe even Kvarndammen. Or should I buy privately? It feels safer to buy from a company, but it's more expensive.

We need a car that fits both for hunting and carrying items. For hunting, a plastic mat in the back will work no matter the car. The wife doesn't agree, but that's another matter. I guess I have to let go of the SUV that I've kind of wanted and look at a different kind of utility vehicle like a Nissan Navara or an Amarok pick-up (maybe a bit pricey, it shouldn't have more than 100,000 km). It should cost around 200,000-250,000 kronor.

So I wonder if anyone has any suggestions besides all those I've received from car dealers, which feel a bit biased ;) what work vehicles do you have, and what's good and bad about them? What's important to think about when I'll have the car for about three to five years.

I'll only carry smaller things in the car; otherwise, I'll use a trailer, but let's say I have a small game animal occasionally, but primarily I'll move smaller items like tools and maybe some planks, as that's unavoidable.
 
I would have bought a Subaru Outback if I were you.
 
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I've actually checked it out, it's a pretty decent car that works for hunting and seems durable. Do you have any experience with the car?
 
No unfortunately not, I have never had a Subaru, but the fact that Subaru owners are so incredibly satisfied and the resale value is high says something to me. :cool:

Otherwise, I recommend an Asian, German, or Swedish car!

I have a Toyota, Skoda, and Mercedes. I'm satisfied with all of them!

I always do extensive research before buying any car, you can't just say one brand is the best; it's about models and years. Sometimes the manufacturers make the cars better than they intended!

Start by checking statistics from the vehicle inspection agency, and once you've decided on a model, look up in detail how its service is conducted. Many models sometimes have very strange and expensive services. Then check for known issues with the models and possibly how costly they are. A classic is diesel and particulate filters; never buy one that's nearing 200,000 kilometers. I think Ford Mondeo has some complications during timing belt replacement. Kia Sportage also has a few quirks, I believe. My memory is a bit weak here since I haven't bought a car in several years. Here it's essential for you to visit various car forums specialized in certain brands.

With my three cars, I've never had a single issue and only done regular maintenance, and we're not talking about new cars. I never buy a car for more than around 100,000 SEK. :)
 
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Today's new cars will go the way of the Dodo. It has never been easier to make a complete mistake, purely economically. What do we really know about the future now? Petrol and diesel will likely cost a fortune in just 5 years. Then, almost only electric cars will be sold, and the prices for a used diesel will be in the toilet completely.
 
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L Lolight said:
Today's new cars will go the way of the Dodo. It has never been easier to make a total mistake, economically speaking. What do we really know about the future now? In just 5 years, gasoline and diesel will likely cost a fortune. By then, almost only electric cars will be sold, and the prices of a used diesel will be completely in the toilet.
But an electric car is probably not a cheap affair, but I understand what you mean; soon you'll probably have to shelve the diesel car unless it has EU6, which is what's required, right?
 
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You get the most car and equipment for your money with Kia or Hyundai.
My personal opinion.
 
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jonastroms jonastroms said:
But an electric car is probably not a cheap affair but I understand what you mean, soon you might have to put the diesel car on the shelf if it doesn't have Euro 6 which is required?
The used price of a 2018 diesel car will be close to zero. Plus, driving it will become expensive. Just look at the taxes they are already planning. Then add fuel.
In the future, which is here in a maximum of 5 years, it will only work to produce electricity oneself, off the books, and charge the electric car with it. Unfortunately, Swedes are not aware of this reality. Ask the car companies and the government about what they are planning and you will be amazed.
 
I've been driving a Legacy-14 for the past three years and it's basically the same car as the Outback, just lower. I often say it's the world's worst great car or the world's best crappy car. :rofl:

Good:
Spacious! Great four-wheel drive, handles well in mud/snow. Very comfortable, wonderful for long trips. Reliable. Can tow 1800kg.

Bad:
The transmission, I have the continuously variable transmission "Lineartronic". Worst damn crappy transmission ever made on this earth! Kickdown can give you anything from 3500-6000 RPM depending on...? Who knows. Absolutely dangerous to start an overtaking maneuver expecting access to all reasonably lively 173 horses (2.5l petrol) and only get around a hundred. Sometimes it takes three kickdowns for the damn transmission to wake up! Avoid Lineartronic if possible!!!!
The four-wheel drive, good for getting going but together with the electronics, it makes the car ridiculously understeered at speed. If you expect to have some fun with a Subbie with motorsport genes in winter, you'll be sorely disappointed. It's possible to disable the electronics by removing a fuse but then you also lose power steering. Haven't dared to try. :rofl:
The climate control, really damn bad! Can have it set to 19 degrees when it's sunny outside and 30 degrees in the car, and the fan is running on the lowest speed. The cooling is there but it doesn't come out! Lowering it to 16 makes the fan gradually go up to 2, maybe 3 in speed (out of 6 I think...) but it's still ridiculously warm in the car. Really bad.
Roof rack. I don't know if it's a typical Subaru thing but they have fixed mounts for the roof rack, not rails. There's maybe a meter between the mounts so for example, beams longer than 3 meters, it starts feeling wobbly.... How hard can it be to move the mounts or add a couple more so you can choose?
Fuel consumption, a boxer is always a boxer....
Low payload!!!! My car can only take 374kg! 3 sturdy friends each with a bag of ski clothes and you're well above that mark. And we haven't even counted the ski box on the wobbly roof rack! Terrible! A shopping trip to Germany is out of the question....

Otherwise, it's a good car...:crysmile:
 
If you're going to haul heavy things, maybe a Ford Ranger, diesel could be something. ;)
 
R Robert-san01 said:
If you are going to carry heavy things, maybe a Ford Ranger, diesel might be something. ;)
Is it good for carrying heavy stones? Lots of heavy stones it will be.... :)
 
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Is it good for carrying heavy stones? Very heavy stones they are.... :)
Heavy tools can also be transported with it, but mostly for shorter distances. :)
 
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I have an L200 as a hunting/fishing/work/second car. Works perfectly and I can fit most things in it.
 
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jonastroms jonastroms said:
what work cars do you have and what is good and bad.
I think having a utility car and a nice car is a tricky combination. It's very impractical to have to worry about scratching and messing up a work car, and few want to drive around in a worn-out and dirty nice car. I would go for a used "real" work car as a second car. We have a Renault Trafic L2 that we are very satisfied with.
 
My friend has had an Amarok for a few years as a second car. Very satisfied with it. Crew cab, highline with rolltop.
 
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