Front door for rental apartment

[Young Murdoch]

Hello

I have a question about the door you see in the picture, is it approved to have as an exterior door for a rental apartment?

I myself have never seen a similar exterior door before.

 

[Stefan1972]

Approved in what sense? Fire protection? If so, it should be indicated on the door if it is fire rated.

 

[Young Murdoch]

Approved in what sense? Fire protection? If so, it should be indicated on the door if it is fire-rated.

To be used as an apartment front door because I think it looks like an interior door that's found in common laundry rooms. Fire protection, such luxury does not exist in several days the apartment smelled of garbage from the staircase.

 

[Stefan1972]

Even though it is smooth, I do believe it is sturdier than normal interior doors made of pressed cardboard type...

 

[Young Murdoch]

Even if it's smooth, I do think it's stronger than normal interior doors that are made of pressed cardboard type...

I think so too, but aren't there any rules that must be followed? I have reported my front door to the municipality because we have supported housing in the building and therefore I want a better door so I can avoid break-ins in the future. Attached is a picture of my front door.

 

[4774]

Hello

I have a question about the door as you see in the picture, is it approved to have as an exterior door for a rental apartment?

I myself have never seen a similar exterior door before.

Looks like a door to an attic storage or similar, but if it's the door to the supportive housing, there are several reasons why it is completely smooth.

 

[Young Murdoch]

Looks like the door to an attic storage or something similar, but if it's the door to the supported accommodation, there are several reasons for it being completely smooth.

What reasons? It's supported accommodation for drug addicts and criminals, that's why I'm worried about my front door. In the summer, there was a syringe in the stairwell, and you don't want that as parents.

 

[4774]

What reasons? It's a supported housing for addicts and criminals, that's why I'm worried about my front door. This summer there was a needle in the stairwell and you don't want that as parents.

So that it's harder to break in, so that it’s not possible to see inside, and so that it becomes anonymous, just to avoid having people who don't belong there from coming and disturbing. Of course it's unfortunate to find a needle in the stairwell, but it could just as easily come from another resident in the building who needs to inject medication regularly. There are many who have to do that; addicts, on the other hand, usually keep their needles and syringes because they need them much more often and find it difficult to get new ones.

 

[Young Murdoch]

To make it harder to break in, to prevent people from seeing in, and for anonymity to avoid having people who don't belong there coming and disturbing. Of course, it's unfortunate to find a syringe in the stairwell, but it could just as easily come from another resident who needs to inject medication regularly. There are many who have to do that, while drug users tend to keep their syringes and needles since they need them much more often and have difficulty obtaining new ones.

Should a supportive housing facility have better security than the rest of us living in the building? We have very thin doors without peepholes, and it's not difficult to know which is their apartment. We've already had a drug addict with a bag standing outside our apartment when coming home with the family. Unknown people sitting on our outdoor furniture and urinating on our neighbor's plants on her patio.

I don't think supportive housing should be in the same building where families with children live when unknown people stand outside my son's window and smoke. It's 2024, what happens if they owe someone money and choose the wrong door? Should something like that affect the rest of us?

 

[Sthlm_]

A supported housing unit should have better security than what the rest of us have who live in the building? We have very thin doors without peepholes and it's not hard to know which is their apartment. We've already had a user with a bag standing outside our apartment when coming home with the family. Unknown people sitting on our outdoor furniture and peeing on our neighbor's plants on her patio.

I don't think there should be supported housing in the same building where families with children live when unknown people stand outside my son's window and smoke. It's 2024, what happens if they owe some money and pick the wrong door? Should such things affect the rest of us?

I would have been just as disheartened as you. I would start looking for another home to have a safe environment.

Perhaps a smaller, private landlord where you can inquire a bit about which tenants they have.

Regarding your front door, it is what it is. If the landlord doesn't want to change it, it likely doesn’t need to be. I lived in a condo with a similar door. The most annoying thing is that it lets through a lot of noise (as well as a lack of burglary and fire protection).

 

[Young Murdoch]

I would have been as despondent as you. I would have started looking for another home to have a safe environment at home.

Maybe a smaller, private landlord where you can inquire a bit about the tenants they have.

Regarding your front door, it is what it is. If the landlord doesn't want to replace it, it's probably not necessary. I lived in a condominium with a similar door. The most disturbing thing is that it lets through a lot of noise (and of course, lacks in burglary and fire safety).

My landlord is private and has reported them to the environmental department and the municipality for a neglected building. We'll see what happens when they visit and see our front door.

 

[4774]

My landlord is private and has reported them to the environmental department and the municipality for neglected building. We’ll see what happens when they come to visit and see our front door.

I completely understand that you don't want to live in the same house where there is such accommodation, but addicts are not the same as gang crime. There is an oasis between these two groups. An addict would rather not be seen at all, let alone run into "ordinary" people.

Gang crime seems to work the opposite way because it's off "ordinary" people that they make money, among other things.

But these groups would rather have nothing to do with each other.

So don't judge too harshly those people who are really trying to change their lives.

 

[Intet]

This summer there was a syringe in the stairwell, and as parents, you don't want that.

And neither does anyone else😃

The doors in the pictures are different.
It looks like an older building, and in that case, it suffices to meet the standards of the past. If there were any standards at all.
In the past, when I was young and sold newspapers, rental buildings didn't have any locks on the entrance doors. You could just walk in, and the apartment doors were adapted accordingly. Fear of criminals is a relatively new phenomenon that all entrance doors have not yet been adapted to.

 

[Young Murdoch]

I fully understand that you don't want to live in the same building as such a residence, but drug users are not the same as gang criminality. There is an oasis between these two groups.
A drug user would rather not be seen at all, let alone run into "regular" people.

Gang criminality seems to operate the opposite way because they make money off "regular" people among other things.

But these groups preferably have nothing to do with each other.

So don't judge so harshly those people who are truly trying to change their lives.

Drug users buy drugs from people who have connections to gang crime.
Problems arise when these people start getting drugs on credit.
I don't need a lesson on how it works or a lecture that they are people with blah blah.
But now it's about the safety of my family and my neighbors, and when you have transitional housing where different people move in and out more often than a normal tenant does, you start to worry about what happens next. Especially when your front door can't even keep out the smell from the garbage that someone from the transitional housing left in the stairwell.

And no others either😃

There are different doors in the pictures.
It looks like an older building, and then it's enough that the requirements of the time are followed. If there were any requirements at all.
In the past, when I was young and sold newspapers, apartment buildings didn't have any locks on the outer doors at all. It was just a matter of walking in, and the apartment doors were adapted for that. The fear of crime is a relatively new phenomenon that not all front doors have been adjusted to yet.

Wow, that was a long time ago 😀 The transitional housing has a door that looks like an interior door, and what I've heard is that it used to be a laundry room.

If there were a fire in the building, we'd be done for, and that's why I've taken it up with the municipality.

 

[Hans G2]

Building regulations, fire regulations, and similar are not retroactive but are based on when the building was constructed. If it was approved according to the rules in place at the time of construction, it is generally okay. This also applies when there is a change in use. For example, if you convert a laundry room into an apartment, the requirements in place at that time need to be met. It also depends on the type of activity being conducted there, whether it's just a regular apartment rented by social services to someone with social issues or if it's a residence with on-site staff providing care or similar services. An apartment has lower requirements than a care facility.

However, this does not affect your apartment or door, as there has been no change in use, and as long as the requirements were met at the time of construction, it is okay.