Renovating the upstairs of a 1920s house and have a vision of installing a kakelugn. The house was previously equipped with kakelugnar but unfortunately, they were removed when water-based heating was installed in the 1950s. In the room where we want to install the stove, it was originally a kitchen, and therefore it is likely that there is no suitable foundation by the chimney for a kakelugn (wooden joist floor). The question now is whether it is reasonable to add a foundation that hangs on the beam according to all the rules of the art? Is it even possible? Building a foundation underneath to transfer the load all the way to the ground is not an option. Has anyone had similar issues or have any general advice so that we can decide whether to give up or if there is a solution!?
If you had a tiled stove/cooking stove there before, it's not entirely impossible that the foundation in the form of built-in protruding railway track already exists there. In our house, I found at least one such in the floor during renovation in a room where a cooking stove had previously stood. In that case, the difficult part will be to assess the condition and convince the stove fitter. If nothing remains of the previous foundation, it will probably be tougher... You might have to consider a lighter alternative in that case.
Yes, maybe there could already be some foundation there, haven't broken up the floor yet. But the kitchen was there originally, so no 1-ton piece has stood there. Didn't think they made foundations using railroad track just for a kitchen stove, but one can hope. Also realize that it's not a simple intervention if there's no foundation at all. In that case, it might have to be a grand fireplace instead...
I didn’t believe it either, but that was the case with us (house from around 1880 that was moved to the current plot in 1921). However, it could be that there was previously a tiled stove there before they installed the coke stove and turned that room on the upper floor into a kitchen? There have previously been two apartments in the house (one per floor), but I believe it was set up that way in 1921.
Even here there were two apartments when the house was built. Where we are planning to install the kakelugn, there was already a kitchen from the beginning, so no kakelugn has stood there. Let's hope there is an over-dimensioned foundation for the old coke stove or that the builders anticipated that someone would want a kakelugn 85 years later 
Hello, I assume you won't be building these tiled stoves yourself? You should ask the tiled stove maker/mason who will be building the stove to come and see how it looks today since they probably know how it should be to support a tiled stove.
Of course, I've planned to get help to build it. Now I'm just trying to sort out the conditions so that the bricklayer doesn't come when I've ripped up the floor with a couple of pallets of tile stove standing next to it and just walks away laughingbyggolle said:
Yes, but that's what I mean, contact the mason because you can get a thousand different answers here on byggahus, but it's the mason who should take responsibility, that's why they probably want to have their say. The tile stove makers I know usually cast the foundations for the stoves they install.
I would love to have a thousand answers, that is the strength of ByggaHus. If I call a bricklayer here, he might very well have been left by his wife the day before and be generally negative about everything and firmly say that it can't be solved . And I can't be bothered to let in a thousand bricklayers. I avoid blindly leaving something I don't have some prior knowledge of to a craftsman for as long as possible.
. And I can't be bothered to let in a thousand bricklayers. I avoid blindly leaving something I don't have some prior knowledge of to a craftsman for as long as possible.
Thank you very much! Then there's hope to do it even if the foundation is missing today.jkm75 said:We have installed two tiled stoves in this way without any issues. The wall to the right is the chimney.[image]
OK from both the city planning office and the tile stove master.
Good luck