Planning to build a gazebo where the floor joists are only 45x70. It is intended to stand on the ground with type concrete blocks or cement slabs underneath. I want to raise my gazebo so that the floor is at the same level as my deck floor, which means I plan to place it on posts. A post at each corner, and the floor should be about 400 mm above the ground. On the posts, I'll lay a framework of a heavier dimension, but my question is: how thick should the floor joists be to avoid sagging in the middle of the gazebo? The gazebo is octagonal with an outer dimension of about 3300 mm.
 
Some information is missing for you to get a good answer. I interpret your solution as 45x70 studwork resting on thicker beams, which in turn lie on some kind of blocks. What is the maximum length for each beam and at what distance should they be placed from each other? Ideally, a small simple sketch would be best.
 
J justusandersson said:
There are some missing details for you to get a good answer. I interpret your solution as 45x70 studs should rest on heavier studs, which in turn are on some kind of blocks. What is the maximum length of each stud and at what distance should they be placed from each other? A simple sketch would be best.
I thought I was quite clear in my description... You have interpreted me correctly. I plan to place the heavier studs on buried plinths. The maximum length is about 3300 mm and the maximum distance about 1300 mm. I'm including a drawing of the floor studs that are part of the kit. The heavier studs should lie across the lighter studs. Blueprint of floor joists layout with various dimensions, showing placement of thicker joists crosswise to thinner ones, as part of a building kit.
 
With a span of 3.3m and cc120 in the middle, it will probably have to be 45x220 or 70x195. If you can add supports in the middle, you can reduce to 45x120.
 
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The rough beams that should lie across the 45x70 trusses included in the kit should not be spaced more than 1.1 meters apart. In that case, these beams need to have the dimension 45x220 and strength class C 24. This is the minimum. I would place them closer together for a more solid feel.
 
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A AskeHolst said:
With a span of 3.3m and cc120 in the middle, it should probably be 45x220 or 70x195. If you can place plinths in the middle, you can go down to 45x120.
I want to avoid more plinths than one at each corner of the 8-sided structure....
 
J justusandersson said:
The thick beams that should lie across the 45x70 studs included in the kit should not be spaced more than 1.1 meters apart. In that case, these beams need to have the dimension 45x220 and be of strength class C 24. This is the minimum. I would place them closer together for a sturdier feel.
As you can see in the sketch, it is about 1300 mm for each wall section. I am thinking of placing a post in each corner and a strong stud to the post opposite. That will be the distance between the studs for the wall sections in the middle. Do you have any other ideas on how I should do it?
 
1300 mm becomes too large a dimension for your 45x70 joists in the floor. If you absolutely want to have only corner pilasters, you will need to place an additional joist (45x220) in the middle, which you can somehow suspend from the adjacent joists using noggins.
 
I'm thinking of solving it this way. I spoke today with a teacher in the construction program who says that 45x170 studs are sufficient. The red ones are my rough studs. Any opinions on that?
Diagram of pavilion with red outlines for 45x170 beams. Includes measurements for width and length, showing proposed beam placement and spacing.
 
It was a solution in the style of what was highlighted in red that I referred to in my previous post. While the load on the beams decreases slightly with more beams, 45x170 is insufficient. 45x195 is borderline. For acceptable deflection, 45x220 is required.
 
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