I have a couple of carpenters who have cast the plinths too low and have placed 45x170 under the bearing beams/floor structure to raise it to the correct level. I think that structurally it's not right and there's a risk of rot, especially on the end grain.
What do you think about it?
Hi, that didn't look like many correct things if you ask me... the jointing of the studs in the first picture doesn't look right. What type of building is it? The last picture seems to have a fairly long span between the pillars, but maybe I'm fooled by the picture? In the first picture, it also seems like only one stud is resting on the pillar? Why haven't they jointed in the middle?
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It just looks like it's thrown together? Is the joist supposed to rest on that support beam when it's crooked, nothing rests on proper supports and it almost looks like it's about to topple at any moment.
I almost think my 12-year-old daughter, who is interested in crafts, would have done it better.
I almost think my 12-year-old daughter, who is interested in crafts, would have done it better.
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It's not the plinths that are the problem. Everything looks incorrect. The floor structure is one thing, you can have plinths on strange joints there, so that should work, but the support beams can't stand like that.
Does the carpenter dabble in abstract art in his spare time?
First image:
Where to begin...? The beam resting on the foundation and protruding about half a meter downwards in the image, why isn't it perpendicular to the upper beams? Same with the beam next to it, lying on the same foundation and under the beam "hanging" in the joist hanger, why isn't it parallel to the beam in the joist hanger? That noggin, is it a splice reinforcement for the two beams meeting end to end? A bit short if that's the case, right? And the beam with the short end against the noggin, was it too short, is that why the noggin is there? Is it even resting on the foundation?
Second image:
The only one that looks relatively sensible, although one wonders what the other foundation is for. A future deck? Hopefully, the end grain is protected somehow...
Last image:
Where to start here as well... It looks like boards have been placed under the beams, probably as support for some form of board that will hold the insulation in place? Is it the same with the shorter board visible in the middle of the image? Why then is the beam resting on the edge! of the foundation not parallel with the board, i.e., the beam above? And why does the lower beam rest on the edge of the foundation, also on a tiny piece of wood! And furthermore, the lower beam is obviously too short as the upper beam is only supported by half its width!
Could this lower beam be the other end of the overly long beam in the first image? Is it finally adjusted, in length and sideways?
I'm not a carpenter, but I wouldn't have been satisfied with that job if I did it myself. No, strike that, I would never in hell let myself do it that way. Aside from all the too-low foundations, all the strange joints, and skewed angles, at least the foundation in image three looks misplaced.
No, it seems there are more wrongs than rights, unfortunately. Imho...
First image:
Where to begin...? The beam resting on the foundation and protruding about half a meter downwards in the image, why isn't it perpendicular to the upper beams? Same with the beam next to it, lying on the same foundation and under the beam "hanging" in the joist hanger, why isn't it parallel to the beam in the joist hanger? That noggin, is it a splice reinforcement for the two beams meeting end to end? A bit short if that's the case, right? And the beam with the short end against the noggin, was it too short, is that why the noggin is there? Is it even resting on the foundation?
Second image:
The only one that looks relatively sensible, although one wonders what the other foundation is for. A future deck? Hopefully, the end grain is protected somehow...
Last image:
Where to start here as well... It looks like boards have been placed under the beams, probably as support for some form of board that will hold the insulation in place? Is it the same with the shorter board visible in the middle of the image? Why then is the beam resting on the edge! of the foundation not parallel with the board, i.e., the beam above? And why does the lower beam rest on the edge of the foundation, also on a tiny piece of wood! And furthermore, the lower beam is obviously too short as the upper beam is only supported by half its width!
Could this lower beam be the other end of the overly long beam in the first image? Is it finally adjusted, in length and sideways?
I'm not a carpenter, but I wouldn't have been satisfied with that job if I did it myself. No, strike that, I would never in hell let myself do it that way. Aside from all the too-low foundations, all the strange joints, and skewed angles, at least the foundation in image three looks misplaced.
No, it seems there are more wrongs than rights, unfortunately. Imho...
T ToRy said:
The house is up with a roof on.P patfred said:
The plinths are not in line with each other, hence the odd angles on the 45x170 lying underneath.
There are multiple plinths because they measured wrong, and the plinths didn't align with the drawings.
I don't really know what to say, the fact that the beams rest directly on the plinths is a problem, yes, but as I said, it seems like there are much more problems than that, unfortunately, it looks very very amateurish (a really lousy amateur moreover)L Lassea45 said: