With your conditions, I can't make a sandbox; I would never lay any ground cloth.
A sandbox is such a short time in the children's history, or do you think they'll be sitting in the sandbox with their friends when they're 19?

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And we haven't even discussed the problem with cats and sandboxes yet. [Pours another glass of red.]
 
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Claes Sörmland Claes Sörmland said:
And we haven't even discussed the problem with cats and sandboxes yet. [Pours another glass of red.]
Nooo don't start with cats.... :poop::seenoevil:

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prototypen prototypen said:
With your conditions, I can't make a sandbox, I would never lay any ground fabric.
A sandbox is such a short time in the children’s history, or do you think they will be sitting in the sandbox with their friends when they're 19?

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You mean you can't make a sandbox if a ground fabric must be laid underneath?

The ground fabric cost 32 bucks. Cutting and laying it out didn't take more than a few minutes. What would be the downside of a ground fabric, regardless of how it's done?
 
Double tarps, of course, as someone else mentioned. Then you must have a lid. So the cats don't pee. You might get more children, so expect that box to be there for quite a while, so choose a good spot. Last but not least, it's pretty smart to pick a spot that provides shade during the hottest hours of the day. Kids can play for an insanely long time with simple things. So if they end up loving the sandbox, it might be good if it's placed strategically so you can sit in a sun chair and drink overly strong drinks while the kids play in the shade (that's what I've done at least. Yes, I'm quite pleased with myself during those times when you can indulge in drinks and the kids play by themselves:rofl::D) (y)(y)
 
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Maybe a matter of taste or maybe there's a right answer but the kids have gone to bed, the wife too, I'm done with the daily routine and now I want to indulge by complicating simple things :D

I have a wooden sandbox - just walls and a lid (no bottom) that I've dug into the garden.
Under the box, I've placed a ground cloth. I was just about to trim the edges of the cloth that stick out when I started wondering if I've really done it right. So I've placed the cloth according to picture 1 below. The cloth is outside the sandbox. I thought it was better than picture 2 where grass and other things might get between the cloth and the box. And the ground cloth is there precisely to prevent plants from getting into the box and sand from getting into the soil. But the question is whether the cloth should rather block sand from getting under the box, which doesn't happen in 1. If you sit/walk on the box, it would shift so that a little sand at a time ends up between the box and the cloth, and then you'd have sand on the sides and the box would rise in height if you know what I mean. Still in the cloth but on the outside of the box. Probably doesn't really matter how I do it as the sandbox was cheap, and it's not the end of the world if it needs to be torn down/replaced later.

Is there a correct way, how would you do it or have done it? Ground cloth inside or outside the sandbox? 1 or 2?

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"Maybe a matter of taste or maybe there's a right answer but the kids have gone to bed, the wife too, I'm done with the daily routine and now I want to indulge by complicating simple things :D"

(A beer on the couch in front of cartoon Spider-Man with the kids)

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Maybe a matter of taste or maybe there's a right answer but the kids have gone to bed, the wife too, I'm done with the daily routine and now I want to indulge by complicating simple things :D

I have a wooden sandbox - just walls and a lid (no bottom) that I've dug into the garden.
Under the box, I've placed a ground cloth. I was just about to trim the edges of the cloth that stick out when I started wondering if I've really done it right. So I've placed the cloth according to picture 1 below. The cloth is outside the sandbox. I thought it was better than picture 2 where grass and other things might get between the cloth and the box. And the ground cloth is there precisely to prevent plants from getting into the box and sand from getting into the soil. But the question is whether the cloth should rather block sand from getting under the box, which doesn't happen in 1. If you sit/walk on the box, it would shift so that a little sand at a time ends up between the box and the cloth, and then you'd have sand on the sides and the box would rise in height if you know what I mean. Still in the cloth but on the outside of the box. Probably doesn't really matter how I do it as the sandbox was cheap, and it's not the end of the world if it needs to be torn down/replaced later.

Is there a correct way, how would you do it or have done it? Ground cloth inside or outside the sandbox? 1 or 2?

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Weeds come from above, not below.

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Double layers of tarp of course, as someone else mentioned. Then you need a cover. So the cats don't pee in it. Then you might get more children, so expect that box to be there for quite a while, so choose a good spot. Last but not least, it's pretty smart to pick a spot that provides shade during the hottest hours of the day. Kids can play insanely long with trivial things. So if they end up loving the sandbox, it's good that it's placed in a strategically good spot so you can sit in a sun chair and drink overly strong drinks while the kids play in the shade (that's what I've done anyway. Yes, I'm quite pleased with myself those times you can indulge in drinks and the kids play by themselves:rofl::D) (y)(y)
The kids actually have to use the cover, meaning if I'm not doing inspections like a boring old man every night, the cover will never be on. Plus, there are pine trees nearby so all the needles... ugh... all these needles... :seenoevil:
You should have self-closing hinges. If the kid has access to a sibling, one can hold it up while the other digs. Teamwork looks good on the CV :cool:
 
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The neighbor built a sturdy sandbox last summer, with landscape fabric underneath. I anticipated the problem (my cats and those in the area) and offered to make a cover for it out of high-quality plastic fabric with edges, so it can easily be put on and taken off. They were pleased when I explained that it also protects against weeds, which, as previously mentioned, come from above, and it keeps the sand moist, since playing in dry sand is no fun. It turned out great.........but now the ants have moved in.
 
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It became so incredibly complicated; when I was at the sandbox age, I just had a heap of sand, no frame and no cover.
My kids actually got a frame, and a "digger," and with that, a lot of sand ended up outside the frame.

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prototypen prototypen said:
It became so incredibly complicated, when I was in the sandbox age I only had a dumped pile of sand, no frame and no cover. My kids actually got a frame, and a "excavator" and with that quite a bit of sand ended up outside the frame.

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Speaking of the Four Yorkshiremen theme. The pressure-treated wood in the past was nothing to mess with. But it kept the ants and weeds away. But the cats...
 
Now I've pondered this troublesome problem over a couple of beers and concluded that the following solution is best. Unfortunately, I can't quite remember why, so it would be good if we could help each other figure it out.

Diagram of a rectangular structure with a black outline, brown edges, and green base, with a red "3" in the top left corner.

No humor at all in this post ;).
 
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Now I have pondered over this troublesome problem over a couple of beers and have concluded that the following solution is best. Unfortunately, I don't quite remember why, so it would be great if we could help each other figure it out.

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No humor at all in this post ;).
You avoid the problem of weeds and cat poop:ok:(y)
 
Henrik.woll Henrik.woll said:
You avoid the problem with weeds and cat poop:ok:(y)
What, does that apply to cat poop too? That it comes from above?
 
Claes Sörmland Claes Sörmland said:
So, on the Four-Yorkshiremen theme. The pressure-treated wood in the past was not to be trifled with. But it kept the ants and weeds away. But the cats...
Actually, my children's frame was made of some demolition wood, so it was quite rotten when the box was dismantled, no poison there. If all sorts of grass and weeds grow in the sandbox, it must be because the children are not there enough.

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