Do I dare drill for a ceiling hook here?

[Poccas]

We need to move our ceiling lamp. It seems to be a plaster ceiling and we want it to stay in place. Used a magnet and now I'm wondering if I dare to drill a hole where the magnet attaches, because in my world it should be the stud that the screw is in that the magnet attaches to. Knocked but can't hear any difference. Need help here. The lamp weighs around 3-4 kg and is one of these:

https://www.fotogenlampor.se/elektr...nlampa-el-taklampa-i-gjutjarn-el-och-fotogen/

Grateful for guidance to get it right.

 

[Plupp 405730]

We need to move our ceiling lamp. It seems to be a drywall ceiling, and I want it to stay put in the ceiling.
I've searched with a magnet, and now I'm wondering if I dare to drill a hole where the magnet attaches because in my mind, it should be the support beam that the screw is in, which the magnet in turn attaches to.
I've tapped around but can't hear a difference.
I need help here.
The lamp weighs around 3-4 kg and is like this one:

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Grateful for guidance so it's done right

It is most likely spaced paneling at the short joints of your gypsum board in the ceiling... there it should hold to screw in a hook for a lamp...
If you have a drill, you can feel if there is wood under where you intend to attach it without making too large a hole...

 

[Poccas]

It is most likely sparse paneling at the short joints of your gypsum board ceiling.. there it should hold to insert a hook for a lamp.
If you have a dycket, you can feel if there is wood underneath where you plan to attach it without making too big a hole..

Thanks, now nailed in a dyckert and there is panel there. Used the magnet on the side.
Is it just drill and insert a screw, or is a plug needed?

 

[Plupp 405730]

Thanks, now nailed in a brad and there is paneling there. Pulled on the side of the magnet.
Is it just drill and screw in a screw or is a plug needed?

If it's a hook with a wood thread, you don't need to drill, just screw it in where you want it, if it's very coarse you can drill a small 2-3mm hole to make screwing easier.
No plugs are used in the wood.

 

[Poccas]

If it's a hook with a wood thread, you don't need to drill, just screw it in where you want it. If it's very coarse, you can drill a small 2-3mm hole to make screwing easier.
No plugs are used in the wood.

Thank you so much for the help. Now I feel secure. Wish you a nice day!

 

[jonaserik]

Thanks, now nailed in a brad and there's panel there. Pulled to the side of the magnet.
Is it just drilling and screwing in or do you need a plug?

Instead of making holes in the ceiling (a shame), you can use a Långa Jan from Classes, then you can have the fixture almost anywhere to fit over a table.

 

[Poccas]

Instead of making a hole in the ceiling (shame), you can use a Långa Jan from Classes, then you can get the fixture almost anywhere to fit over a table

The lamp weighs almost 6kg. Had to weigh it so Långa Jan doesn't work then but thanks for the tip.

 

[jonaserik]

The lamp weighs almost 6kg. Had to weigh it as long as it doesn't work, but thanks for the tip.

Then you should pre-drill a 2 mm hole up, if you screw in a proper ceiling hook, it can expand in the hole. Apply glue to the thread before you screw it in. And remember to have a sturdy hook, one like this is good and holds up to 15 kilos, and is available in different lengths, although the different lengths might not be at Classes.
https://www.clasohlson.com/se/Lampkrok-vit/p/21-2640

 

[Poccas]

Then you should pre-drill a 2 mm hole up, if you use a proper ceiling hook it can expand in the hole. Apply something on the thread before you put it in. And remember to use a hook that is sturdy. This one is good and supports 15 kilos. They come in different lengths, though different lengths might not be available at Classes.
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Thank you. Yes, I checked at Classes, but it feels flimsy. I need to look for a thicker and longer one. The lamp has been in the ceiling for 17 years on a regular ceiling hook, so it should hold.

I need to move it because you hit your head 🤣

 

[jonaserik]

Thank you. Yes, I looked at classes but it feels weak. I'll have to look for a thicker and longer one. The lamp has been hanging from the ceiling for 17 years on a regular lamp socket hook, so it should hold.

I have to move it since you hit your head 🤣

Lamp sockets with hooks hold up to 15 kilos, the type I linked to, virtually every electrician has in their cars and is used 100% for hooks in the ceiling.