Hello. I found these nice beams in a root cellar that no one wanted, so I thought I would take them home and install them as visible beams in the vaulted ceiling of my new build, but soon it's time to mount them, and I read that old sleepers are not good at all and could be carcinogenic.
How do you know if they are toxic?
Can't you just coat them with a blocking paint?
 
  • Old wooden beams lying on the ground in a cellar, partially in sunlight, intended for use in a new construction project.
But is it old sleepers then? If they are "dangerous" there is probably quite clear impregnation.
 
H hempularen said:
But are they old sleepers then? If they are "dangerous" there is probably quite obvious impregnation.
No one knows what they are or have been used for. They don't look like they have any tar on them, but they smell a bit strange, which isn't surprising since they've been lying directly on the sand in a root cellar for many years. How can you tell if it's an impregnated sleeper?
 
If they are sleepers, it is very likely that they are impregnated with arsenic or creosote. Not something I would want inside my home precisely. One of the logs seems to bear traces of rail, so it is probably a railway sleeper.
 
I cut off an edge with the reciprocating saw and it is not dark on the inside as you can see.
But it smells strong.
Were sleepers dark all the way through or just on the outside?
 
  • Close-up of cut sleepers, showing light interior and darker exterior, questioned for strong smell and color consistency; sawdust visible around cuts.
If it smells strong, it's likely creosote, not recommended indoors.
 
Think now.
Why would you want to install something that is potentially useless and also smells bad in a new construction...?

What do you do if they are admittedly not impregnated but the smell emerges after they are installed?

Throw the crap away!
/M
 
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There is nothing to suggest that they are sleepers. Neither marks from rail spikes nor impregnation.
 
What effect does sealant painting have on odor? The beams are so nice, so that's why I would like to use them.
 
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Hennke85 Hennke85 said:
One of the logs seems to bear traces of rails, so it is probably a railway sleeper.
Where do you find the traces of rails?

P.S.
TRACES of RAILS. That was clever!:D
 
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Maybe the numbering at the end can provide some clue about what they were used for previously?
 
It looks like regular house timbers. Probably completely harmless, but if they've been in a damp basement for a long time, there's likely quite a lot growing and smelling on them.
 
Staffans2000 Staffan2000 said:
Where do you find the tracks of rails?

P.S.
TRACKS of RAILS. That was clever!:D
In the top picture, one of the beams appears to have two indentations with a gap that can be interpreted as clear marks from rails laid without a base plate and therefore worn into the beam. But it could also be something else.
 
T Toddep said:
I sawed off an edge with the reciprocating saw and it is not dark on the inside as you can see. But it smells strong. Were sleepers dark all the way through or just on the outside?
In the top image, you can see indentations in the beam on the far right; if these are placed equally far from the edge and have a measurement between them of approximately 1435, 1093, 1067, 891, 802, 750, or 600 mm, then it is definitely a railway sleeper. If there are also square holes on either side of the indentation, it is even more confirmed.
 
Sin and take a chance. I buy glulam and make an effort so they have an old appearance.
 
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