Hello,
I'm going to buy a new kitchen and have destroyed all the old stuff.
And now I'm thinking of building an extra wall for the kitchen instead of routing the cables into the concrete.
Is it just a matter of framing 60cc as usual with nail plugs and then wood board and gypsum board on top??
I plan to have tiles on it, will they really stay fixed on the gypsum board considering all the weight and everything??
Grateful for any help
I'm going to buy a new kitchen and have destroyed all the old stuff.
And now I'm thinking of building an extra wall for the kitchen instead of routing the cables into the concrete.
Is it just a matter of framing 60cc as usual with nail plugs and then wood board and gypsum board on top??
I plan to have tiles on it, will they really stay fixed on the gypsum board considering all the weight and everything??
Grateful for any help
1. Is 11mm thickness OSB from Byggmax sufficient??
http://www.byggmax.com/se-sv/Prod/PID-1009.aspx
2. Is it chipboard screws that are used to fasten OSB to the studs??
http://www.byggmax.com/se-sv/Prod/PID-24344.aspx
3. What length should the screws be, 4.2x30mm or 4.2x41mm or 4.2x51mm??
4. Are standard drywall screws then used for the drywall that is to be attached to OSB??
Thanks
http://www.byggmax.com/se-sv/Prod/PID-1009.aspx
2. Is it chipboard screws that are used to fasten OSB to the studs??
http://www.byggmax.com/se-sv/Prod/PID-24344.aspx
3. What length should the screws be, 4.2x30mm or 4.2x41mm or 4.2x51mm??
4. Are standard drywall screws then used for the drywall that is to be attached to OSB??
Thanks
Hello again evoline. Everyone does things their own way, but if I were to build the way you planned, I wouldn't even look at an OSB board. OSB is the absolute worst crap you can use, people can say what they want. I would go with 12mm plywood and screw with 28mm screws. I believe they are 4.3x28. Don't be fooled by everyone who says you should use OSB.
1. Yes, OSB is fine, but it's cheaper at Bauhaus right now. Or you can use plyfa which is a bit better but more expensive. Check the picture in the above post.evoline said:
2. I usually use 40mm drywall screws, what is "correct" I don't know.
3. 40mm for OSB, 30 for gypsum (or 40 if you want to screw gypsum also into the studs where possible, though it's not necessary).
4. Yes.
Chris and Raceman should also read this before the short train against what is not plyfa continues:
Excerpted from Byggelit, a comment regarding SP's test, I underlined the part of the response that should be read extra carefully:
Can you use a particleboard behind a drywall when, for fire safety reasons, such as in an escape route, you must have one on the outermost layer, but still want to be able to attach something heavier to a sturdier wall? A plywood sheet or an OSB sheet is often used for this purpose, but it would surely be cheaper to use a particleboard instead, but will it hold? Byggelit commissioned SP Sveriges Provnings- och Forskningsinstitut to conduct rigorous comparative tests of this with surprisingly good results.
SP constructed special walls with Plywood 12 mm, OSB 11 mm, and Byggelit's particleboard STABIL 12 mm. All had a 13 mm thick drywall mounted in front/above. The strengths were tested both vertically and horizontally by screwing a screw TFX SPAX-S 5.0 x 60 through the boards, leaving the screw head 1 cm above the surface. Exactly the same for all the walls. The screw was then loaded to failure. It turned out that the particleboard was marginally weaker than the two significantly more expensive boards, but still sufficiently strong, namely:
The stable board + drywall held for 258 kg vertically and 124 kg horizontally
The OSB board + drywall held for 266 kg vertically and 169 kg horizontally
The Plywood + drywall held for 270 kg vertically and 191 kg horizontally
When a metal kitchen cabinet was hung on the walls with 2 screws of the same type as above and the top of the cabinet was loaded to failure, the following results were obtained: STABIL 349 kg, OSB 290 kg, and Plywood 361 kg. There is no ordinary kitchen cabinet that in itself would withstand more than a small portion of this load, regardless of the option chosen here. There is therefore no reason for strength-related purposes to choose any of the more expensive options.
Excerpted from Byggelit, a comment regarding SP's test, I underlined the part of the response that should be read extra carefully:
Can you use a particleboard behind a drywall when, for fire safety reasons, such as in an escape route, you must have one on the outermost layer, but still want to be able to attach something heavier to a sturdier wall? A plywood sheet or an OSB sheet is often used for this purpose, but it would surely be cheaper to use a particleboard instead, but will it hold? Byggelit commissioned SP Sveriges Provnings- och Forskningsinstitut to conduct rigorous comparative tests of this with surprisingly good results.
SP constructed special walls with Plywood 12 mm, OSB 11 mm, and Byggelit's particleboard STABIL 12 mm. All had a 13 mm thick drywall mounted in front/above. The strengths were tested both vertically and horizontally by screwing a screw TFX SPAX-S 5.0 x 60 through the boards, leaving the screw head 1 cm above the surface. Exactly the same for all the walls. The screw was then loaded to failure. It turned out that the particleboard was marginally weaker than the two significantly more expensive boards, but still sufficiently strong, namely:
The stable board + drywall held for 258 kg vertically and 124 kg horizontally
The OSB board + drywall held for 266 kg vertically and 169 kg horizontally
The Plywood + drywall held for 270 kg vertically and 191 kg horizontally
When a metal kitchen cabinet was hung on the walls with 2 screws of the same type as above and the top of the cabinet was loaded to failure, the following results were obtained: STABIL 349 kg, OSB 290 kg, and Plywood 361 kg. There is no ordinary kitchen cabinet that in itself would withstand more than a small portion of this load, regardless of the option chosen here. There is therefore no reason for strength-related purposes to choose any of the more expensive options.
Ok, it will be plywood instead of OSB, hardly more expensive but it feels safer knowing that it holds up better, even if you don't hang anything...
1. What type of screws should be used for the plywood to be attached to the studs, length and name??
2. Are the same type of screws always used for OSB, Plywood, and other common wood panels??
3. Is 11mm plywood sufficient, can't find 12mm??
(don't have bauhaus nearby or anything, just byggmax that's open today)
Thanks for all the answers
1. What type of screws should be used for the plywood to be attached to the studs, length and name??
2. Are the same type of screws always used for OSB, Plywood, and other common wood panels??
3. Is 11mm plywood sufficient, can't find 12mm??
(don't have bauhaus nearby or anything, just byggmax that's open today)
Thanks for all the answers
Good choice =)
1. Regular wood screw around 30mm will be perfect.
2. Depends on what you mean by regular wooden board =)
3. 11mm ?
http://www.byggmax.com/se-sv/Prod/PID-1005.aspx
(If you are going to shop at byggmax and get 120 plyfa)
1. Regular wood screw around 30mm will be perfect.
2. Depends on what you mean by regular wooden board =)
3. 11mm ?
http://www.byggmax.com/se-sv/Prod/PID-1005.aspx
(If you are going to shop at byggmax and get 120 plyfa)