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Brace large opening in wagon shed/carport
Hello,
I have installed braces in three walls, and the entire cart shed is very stiff and stable in three directions. However, not from the front in the middle, in the direction of the roof joists.
Will the metal roof stiffen the building significantly?
If not, I might need to add cross braces inside the building.
Are there other solutions than braces inside the building?
I have installed braces in three walls, and the entire cart shed is very stiff and stable in three directions. However, not from the front in the middle, in the direction of the roof joists.
Will the metal roof stiffen the building significantly?
If not, I might need to add cross braces inside the building.
Are there other solutions than braces inside the building?
What calculations or models form the basis for the construction?
The lack of stiffness in the direction of the roof trusses is probably partly due to the braces being placed inside, so they work best for forces against the back and not the front. As it stands, you get a tensile force instead of compressive against the opening, making the structure look like it’s designed to collapse into a flat package. There must be very large torsional forces on the screw connections holding the braces. If you place double braces as an X, it should be significantly better than it is now.
However, I am not an engineer. I would first study an approved and calculated construction before attempting any modifications.
The lack of stiffness in the direction of the roof trusses is probably partly due to the braces being placed inside, so they work best for forces against the back and not the front. As it stands, you get a tensile force instead of compressive against the opening, making the structure look like it’s designed to collapse into a flat package. There must be very large torsional forces on the screw connections holding the braces. If you place double braces as an X, it should be significantly better than it is now.
However, I am not an engineer. I would first study an approved and calculated construction before attempting any modifications.
Thanks for your response,MultiMan said:
What calculations or models form the basis for the design?
The lack of rigidity in the direction of the roof joists is probably partly because you placed the braces inside, making them work best for forces against the back and not the front. As it is now, you get a tensile force instead of a compressive force against the opening, and the construction looks like it's made to fold into a flat package. There must be very large twisting forces on the screw joints holding the braces.
However, I am not a designer. I would first study an approved and calculated construction before attempting to modify it.
With braces inside as in the last picture, it becomes completely rigid, so that's an option. However, the one from the back is not in the picture (cross). But I would prefer to avoid having these inside if possible.
Dimensions, span, and cc are all within what is recommended.
Thanks for the response and the tip, and for the picture 😀 Will try this 👍J jonaserik said:
Thanks! It's already done, just not visible in the pictures 😉J jonaserik said:
Do you think it's possible to make a big cross over the entire thing with the perforated tape, or is it better to zigzag through the entire length?
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