Hello,

I have installed braces in three walls, and the entire cart shed is very stiff and stable in three directions. However, not from the front in the middle, in the direction of the roof joists.

Will the metal roof stiffen the building significantly?

If not, I might need to add cross braces inside the building.

Are there other solutions than braces inside the building?
 
  • Wooden roof rafters under construction with a clamp securing a beam, surrounded by a green outdoor setting.
  • Wooden roof framing in progress with wooden beams and metal ladder, surrounded by trees and green landscape under a partly cloudy sky.
  • Wooden frame with diagonal braces in outdoor construction site. Ladders and tools are present, surrounded by greenery, seeking stability improvements.
  • Wooden structure with angled braces and tools, partially covered with tarps; adjacent house and building materials visible in the background.
MultiMan
What calculations or models form the basis for the construction?

The lack of stiffness in the direction of the roof trusses is probably partly due to the braces being placed inside, so they work best for forces against the back and not the front. As it stands, you get a tensile force instead of compressive against the opening, making the structure look like it’s designed to collapse into a flat package. There must be very large torsional forces on the screw connections holding the braces. If you place double braces as an X, it should be significantly better than it is now.

However, I am not an engineer. I would first study an approved and calculated construction before attempting any modifications.
 
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MultiMan MultiMan said:
What calculations or models form the basis for the design?

The lack of rigidity in the direction of the roof joists is probably partly because you placed the braces inside, making them work best for forces against the back and not the front. As it is now, you get a tensile force instead of a compressive force against the opening, and the construction looks like it's made to fold into a flat package. There must be very large twisting forces on the screw joints holding the braces.

However, I am not a designer. I would first study an approved and calculated construction before attempting to modify it.
Thanks for your response,

With braces inside as in the last picture, it becomes completely rigid, so that's an option. However, the one from the back is not in the picture (cross). But I would prefer to avoid having these inside if possible.

Dimensions, span, and cc are all within what is recommended.
 
It's completely open on the left, so there's a risk of shifting, which means placing some studs, preferably 45X95, which are strong on the underside of transverse ceiling joists. It's long, so it needs long lengths, and several of them. A bit like this as a tip.
 
  • Open wooden framework with diagonal red lines showing recommended placement of braces to prevent shifting, using strong 45x95 beams, in a construction setting.
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J jonaserik said:
It is completely open to the left and then there's a risk that it shifts, better to put some pieces of joists, best with 45X95 which are strong on the underside of transverse roof joists. It's long and requires long lengths then, and several pieces. A bit like this as a tip
Thanks for the response and the tip, and for the picture 😀 Will try this 👍
 
Munktells Munktells said:
Thanks for the response and the tip, and for the picture 😀 Will try this 👍
Then don't forget to secure the gables with diagonal braces from the bottom up to the crosses. Can be advantageously placed within the construction between the framework.
 
J jonaserik said:
Don't forget to secure the gables with braces from the bottom up to the crosses. They can be advantageously placed inside the construction between the framework.
Thanks! It's already done, just not visible in the pictures 😉

Do you think it's possible to make a big cross over the entire thing with the perforated tape, or is it better to zigzag through the entire length?
 
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