Just fixed some minor moisture damage on the caravan's corner and chose Biltema's Multibond (MS polymer) for gluing (to fill more than regular wood glue and avoid having to press everything, as glued with PU and PL400 melts foam and PL600 is only for indoor use). When the plastic mat had to go back in a corner, I tried applying some strands there too, but it wasn’t good and to my surprise, I could (after 24h) easily pull up the mat again! Tried gluing two pieces of wood together, waited twelve hours, easy to pull apart. Feels like it's been glued with acrylic caulk. It’s also easy to 'peel off the rubbery "glue residues" with a fingernail, leaving the wood completely unaffected, something impossible with, for example, wood glue.

Anyone have experience with this product?
 
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platon1980 platon1980 said:
Just fixed some minor moisture damage on the caravan's corners and chose Biltema's Multibond (MS polymer) to glue with (to fill more than regular wood glue and avoid pressing everything if glued with PU and PL400 melts cellular plastic and PL600 is only for indoor use). When the plastic mat was to be put back in a corner, I tried to apply some strands there too, but it wasn't good and to my surprise, I could easily pull the mat up again! Tried to glue two pieces of wood together, waited twelve hours, easy to pull apart. Feels like they are glued with acrylic sealant. It's also easy to 'peel off the rubber-like "glue residues" with a fingernail, leaving the wood completely unaffected, something impossible with, for example, wood glue.

Does anyone have experience with this product?
Looks like it has a long curing time? 3 mm/24 hrs. "Alkyd paints can have extended drying time." i.e., if it is "airtight" it dries more slowly. I see there is a "rapid" version too, maybe that works better?
 
Well, I was hoping for that too, and I also tried to pry a bit between two pieces that had dried for three days, they hold better, but the glue that was squeezed out in the joint can still be picked off with a fingernail :( It smears and sticks, but doesn't seem to adhere properly to wood, nor to hard materials like plastic and aluminum.
 
platon1980 platon1980 said:
Yes, had hoped for that too, and I also tried to wedge a bit between two pieces that had dried for three days, they stick better, but the glue that was squeezed out in the seam can still be peeled off with a nail :( It smears and adheres, but doesn't seem to bond properly to wood, nor to hard materials like plastic and aluminum.
how has the glue been stored?
 
K Klasklättermus said:
how has the glue been stored?
New cartridge directly from Biltema for gluing.
 
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I have glued with that adhesive and it adheres well. However, it never gets hard but more like rubber or silicone when fully cured. Note: very slow if applied to dense materials.
 
platon1980 platon1980 said:
New cartridge directly from Biltema for gluing.
it behaves as if it has been frozen once
 
I have used it as an alternative to acrylic/latex caulk, it works perfectly for that purpose, adheres well, cures well. But I have not tested it as a pure adhesive. And I would not be surprised if it has a long drying time in tight spaces.

It becomes like silicone, but can be painted on.
 
Yes, it might take several days to cure properly, but it's funny that it can be scraped off with a fingernail. I glued moldings in the basement (against plastered walls) with PL600, where the plaster came off when I was removing a molding, and the adhesive sticks well to the molding. Also glued laminate on stairs that remain attached. But as mentioned, it's only for indoor use and perhaps not elastic.
 
K Klasklättermus said:
it behaves as if it's been frozen once
It feels like a solvent-based glue lacking solvent, kind of the same feeling I guess?
 
The MS polymer is moisture-curing, so if it's bone dry outside, which it likely is, the curing takes a long time. Normally, the adsorbed moisture on the surfaces to be glued is sufficient for the curing.
 
mattiasp mattiasp said:
The MS polymer is moisture-curing, so if it's bone-dry outside, which it probably is, the curing takes a long time. Normally, the absorbed moisture on the surfaces to be bonded is enough for the curing.
even if we don't live in a rainforest.
it should have cured somewhat
 
Glued some aluminum to plastic yesterday, it says it's supposed to work, ha! What a joke, about the same adhesion as sticky tack or chewing gum. CA will have to do.
 
I searched for PL400 when I was going to Biltema today since I preferably wanted to avoid visiting both Biltema and Jula.
Then this "glue" came up, as if it would correspond to PL400.
I'm going to glue a small piece of wood, 1.5 meters, to concrete.
It was the worst crap I have tested.
How can they even suggest this as a reasonable alternative?
 
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