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Balcony with drip-free carport below
I'll have to check with my local metal sheet companies then and see if I can get a hold of some pieces... Now I understand your point about the algae, we'll see if it ends up being metal or plastic.Tossegubbe said:All major metal sheet companies usually have miscut and transport-damaged metal sheets that you can buy as second quality at a good price even if there's nothing actually wrong with them. My experience is that not much more grows on a plastic sheet than on regular metal, but it is much more visible on transparent plastic than on metal. It's quite clear that more will grow on our type of roof because it will be much more humid there since the sun will never shine directly on the metal. But if you google algae growth, you might find more scientific info; my opinion is based solely on practical experience from many patio and conservatory constructions over the years.
I've now received quotes both from the local builder's merchant and another larger chain, Byggmax beats the usual merchants by about 2500kr. I think we're going to end up shopping at Byggmax anyway. And for now, I think I'll just build the balcony and delay the sub-roof because the budget doesn't allow for all the fun things I need to do right now...q(;^
Otherwise, I'm wondering if it looks odd if I use 28*145 decking instead of 28*120. Byggmax has a very good price on 28*145 right now, about 500 kronor cheaper for the thicker one. Anyone who has built a balcony/patio with such thick decking want to share their thoughts?
/Samuel
The difference is that the 145mm can cup more and if you lay it the wrong way, there will be water standing on the boards.
Personally, I think 145 looks nicer than 120, but 95 gives the smoothest floor
Personally, I think 145 looks nicer than 120, but 95 gives the smoothest floor
I have now bought decking and beams for the railing. It ended up being 28-145 because Byggmax has a campaign on that dimension, 9.95 SEK/LM compared to 12.95 SEK/LM. Saving about 750 SEK against the regular price and a little more compared to if I had bought 28-120. It turned out to be a decent load on the trailer, about 1.3 tons. Good thing I have BECE qualification...
I assume you think one should lay the growth rings like a smiling face (I know there are tons of posts on the subject... :x).
I will start laying the decking this weekend and maybe even get to the railing this weekend. Planning to post some pictures during the process.
As a preview, here's a SketchUp image of how it's intended to look when finished.
I assume you think one should lay the growth rings like a smiling face (I know there are tons of posts on the subject... :x).
I will start laying the decking this weekend and maybe even get to the railing this weekend. Planning to post some pictures during the process.
As a preview, here's a SketchUp image of how it's intended to look when finished.
Well, the balcony is almost completely built, only the cross pieces in the railing are missing. Almost the entire Easter weekend was spent by me and a visiting friend. Not only did we finish the balcony, but we also had the chance to thoroughly test his newly purchased 10.8v Makita machines, very nice to work with. Link to pictures of the balcony (and the machines) during and after the work can be found at the bottom.
Now on to my new consideration regarding the under-ceiling.
As you know, I had planned to do like Tossegubbe and install a plastic/metal roof under the balcony to prevent dripping onto the car. Since the budget doesn't allow for such projects at the moment, I'm considering alternative (temporary?) solutions.
What I've thought about the most is whether I could buy a tarp in an appropriate size, like 8*4m or similar, cut it into strips about 70*400cm and then screw them in place with narrow battens with a slope between the floor joists. The potential problem with this solution, which is inspired by Til-tak's product for installation after the decking is laid (thanks Arne for the link), is that it might drip from the battens themselves, which would defeat the purpose of the entire project.
The alternative is to try to set up the ENTIRE tarp in the same way so that it sits under the battens and goes up between the joists. :x
I'm attaching a couple of pictures of how I envisioned it with the strips.
http://picasaweb.google.se/samuel.dahlor/Balkong?authkey=Gv1sRgCMyRt4fz1oWzfg&feat=directlink
Thanks to my friend Karin for the pictures.
Now on to my new consideration regarding the under-ceiling.
As you know, I had planned to do like Tossegubbe and install a plastic/metal roof under the balcony to prevent dripping onto the car. Since the budget doesn't allow for such projects at the moment, I'm considering alternative (temporary?) solutions.
What I've thought about the most is whether I could buy a tarp in an appropriate size, like 8*4m or similar, cut it into strips about 70*400cm and then screw them in place with narrow battens with a slope between the floor joists. The potential problem with this solution, which is inspired by Til-tak's product for installation after the decking is laid (thanks Arne for the link), is that it might drip from the battens themselves, which would defeat the purpose of the entire project.
The alternative is to try to set up the ENTIRE tarp in the same way so that it sits under the battens and goes up between the joists. :x
I'm attaching a couple of pictures of how I envisioned it with the strips.
http://picasaweb.google.se/samuel.dahlor/Balkong?authkey=Gv1sRgCMyRt4fz1oWzfg&feat=directlink
Thanks to my friend Karin for the pictures.
But does a tarp become cheaper then?
You can't use one of those cheap lightweight tarps because it will be broken before the summer is over, and if you want a proper PVC, it costs in the range of 2-3000kr unless you can go to someone who manufactures canopies and buy scrap strips, for example?
Don't you think it will flap and smack when it gets windy, by the way?
You can't use one of those cheap lightweight tarps because it will be broken before the summer is over, and if you want a proper PVC, it costs in the range of 2-3000kr unless you can go to someone who manufactures canopies and buy scrap strips, for example?
Don't you think it will flap and smack when it gets windy, by the way?
As I've calculated it, a tarp will be cheaper. If I buy one like this from Harald Nyborg, it's enough for strips for the entire balcony, and it doesn't cost more than a 5-hundred. I think it should hold since it's both UV-resistant and reinforced.Tossegubbe said:But will a tarp be cheaper then?
You can't use one of those cheap lightweight tarps because it will be torn before the summer is over, and if you want a proper PVC one, it costs in the range of 2-3000kr unless you can go to someone who manufactures tents and buy scrap strips, for example?
Don't you think it will flap and bang in the wind, by the way?
Then, if I go through with the idea, I will attach the tarp stretched between the beams instead of with a little slack as I have drawn. That way, I'll avoid flutter.
In the long run, I plan to cover the long side and one of the short sides too, and then I'll avoid quite a bit of wind load.
Bumping a bit.. Any pictures of the final result? Satisfied 10 years later? 
Nice bump!
I never got around to putting up a tarpaulin. The balcony is still standing but with supports under the middle as the span is a bit too long and therefore a bit too much flex. I plan to tear it down and build a new one within 3 years as the decking has started to come loose from the beams that were made of self-impregnated wood. I might place a 20’ container underneath because my business is taking up more and more space in the barn and I need storage!
I never got around to putting up a tarpaulin. The balcony is still standing but with supports under the middle as the span is a bit too long and therefore a bit too much flex. I plan to tear it down and build a new one within 3 years as the decking has started to come loose from the beams that were made of self-impregnated wood. I might place a 20’ container underneath because my business is taking up more and more space in the barn and I need storage!
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