Anyone knowledgeable about asbestos? (That is, possesses expertise)

Background: I'm a member of a non-profit organization here in Borås with our own facility. We're about to remodel the kitchen, and we discovered both asbestos cement sheets and asbestos in the glue used to adhere the sheets (positive samples have been taken).

Since we've decided to lay an epoxy floor in the kitchen, the person leading the project wanted to proceed, so he pried up the sheets, thinking it probably isn't that dangerous. A handful of sheets cracked during the job, but no sheet was cut into, and the glue hasn't been scraped up.

Now there are divided opinions about this; Do we need to decontaminate the entire premises, or can we just proceed? The mishap has already occurred, and if asbestos particles have been released into the air, they probably won't disappear anytime soon.

We need an objective opinion on this; that is, do we need to decontaminate, or can we just move forward?

The important thing is that we get an objective answer (it feels like a professional asbestos remover would be biased).

We're taking the sheets to Solbacken's asbestos recycling, of course.
 
I would definitely clean it. You still need to sand away the glue to get adhesion on the new floor.
Was it a company that removed the floor?
 
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Mild Matilda.
Cleaning company just because a few tiles have broken? Sure. If the association has money they need to get rid of without any trace of results, just go ahead.😃

Do you really have eternitplattor on the floor?
 
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the association is a legal entity and has the responsibility for the work environment
using members or untrained individuals for asbestos work is criminal
With a trained individual, this would never have happened.
removal of adhesive residues should be done by a cleanup company
Everyone else would have laid the new floor on top
 
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No one working on demolishing the kitchen had any idea that there might be asbestos under the old floor. That's how it is when you're in a non-profit organization and the members are expected to work without compensation…

And yes, in hindsight's painful wisdom, it would have been smartest to lay the new floor on top. Sometimes reality clashes with utopia. (Probably never happened to anyone on this forum…)

One of the members works at a concrete flooring company, they will apply an epoxy on top so that we encapsulate the asbestos glue. I'm personally not worried, but there are members who are. That's why it would have been nice to know what actually applies – Are we all going to die of lung cancer before next summer, or can we ignore it?

I don't know if the floor is eternit, but it says: "Asbestos can be found in vinyl flooring, linoleum, and other floor products to improve its durability, strength, resistance to fire and wear, and sound insulation."

From the minutes:

Certificate table showing test results indicating asbestos presence in both plate and black adhesive in kitchen floor.
 
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Aha. Then you have regular kitchen tiles. Maybe the square ones that resemble marble? Anyway, they bend very little.
You could inform the Google-damaged members that they inhale on average 10 asbestos fibers per minute. Or... Don’t do that.

Extra extra. Local heritage society members committed collective suicide by holding their breath.
 
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andreascarlsson andreascarlsson said:
No one working on tearing down the kitchen had any idea that there could be asbestos under the old floor. That's how it is when you're a non-profit organization and the members are expected to work without pay...

And yes, in hindsight, it would of course have been smartest to lay the new floor on top. Sometimes reality clashes with utopia, though. (Probably never happened to anyone on this forum...)

One of the members works at a floor concrete company, they will lay an epoxy on top so that we encapsulate the asbestos glue. I'm personally not worried, but there are members who are. Therefore, as mentioned, it would have been nice to know what actually applies - Will we all die of lung cancer before next summer, or can we ignore it?

I don't know if the floor is eternit, but it says: "Asbestos can be found in vinyl flooring, linoleum, and other floor products to improve its durability, strength, resistance to fire and wear, and sound insulation."

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andreascarlsson andreascarlsson said:
No one working on tearing down the kitchen had any idea that there could be asbestos under the old floor. That's how it is when you're a non-profit organization and the members are expected to work without pay...

And yes, in hindsight, it would of course have been smartest to lay the new floor on top. Sometimes reality clashes with utopia, though. (Probably never happened to anyone on this forum...)

One of the members works at a floor concrete company, they will lay an epoxy on top so that we encapsulate the asbestos glue. I'm personally not worried, but there are members who are. Therefore, as mentioned, it would have been nice to know what actually applies - Will we all die of lung cancer before next summer, or can we ignore it?

I don't know if the floor is eternit, but it says: "Asbestos can be found in vinyl flooring, linoleum, and other floor products to improve its durability, strength, resistance to fire and wear, and sound insulation."

From the minutes:

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THE REPLY FUNCTION HAS GONE HAYWIRE
 
andreascarlsson andreascarlsson said:
No one working on demolishing the kitchen had any idea whatsoever that there could be asbestos under the old floor. That's how it is when you're a non-profit organization and the members are expected to work without compensation...

And yes, in hindsight, it would naturally have been smartest to lay the new floor on top. Sometimes, however, reality collides with utopia. (Probably never happened to anyone on this forum...)

One of the members works at a concrete flooring company, they will apply epoxy on top so that we encapsulate the asbestos glue. I'm personally not worried, but there are members who are. Therefore, it would have been nice to know what actually applies – Are we all going to die of lung cancer before next summer or can we dismiss it?

I don't know if the floor is eternit, but here it says: "Asbestos can be found in vinyl floors, linoleum, and other flooring products to improve its durability, strength, resistance to fire and wear, as well as sound insulation."

From the protocol:

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not cancer before summer
but COPD before Christmas
 
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Is it okay to apply the epoxy directly without sanding, then go ahead, otherwise a certified company should handle the sanding.
What was loosened when the tiles were broken off should be aired out and wiped away with a damp cloth by yourselves.

Consider spraying the word asbestos on the epoxy if it will be covered, so it is clear that the epoxy contains asbestos during the next renovation.
 
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That floor will not generate any asbestos.

My house built in 1955 is full of asbestos, asbestos adhesive on the floors, the ceilings are made of eternit.

But, I'm not worried at all because I KNOW that if you don't start creating dust by sawing or sanding the material, the risk of free asbestos fibers is nonexistent.

Epoxy fixes the problem.
 
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D Dilato said:
That floor will not generate any asbestos.

My house built in 1955 is full of asbestos, asbestos glue on the floors, the ceilings are eternit.

But, I'm not worried at all because I KNOW that if you don't start creating dust by sawing or grinding the material, the risk of free asbestos fibers is nonexistent.

Epoxy fixes the problem.
I live in the 60s and everything is asbestos
I tear into this all the time, not least to see how well I handle it if I develop asbestos cancer etc.
 
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returen returen said:
I live in the 60s and everything is asbestos
I tear it all the time, not least to see how well I manage if I develop asbestos cancer etc.
I have lived in an environment with lots of asbestos fibers in the air throughout my youth (born 1956) and to my knowledge, none of my contemporaries have been affected by asbestosis.
But sure, it can be dangerous with long-term exposure and smoking is a booster but a single exposure is nothing to worry about.
 
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I have lived in an environment with lots of asbestos fibers in the air throughout my youth (born 1956) and none of my contemporaries, to my knowledge, have been affected by asbestosis. But sure, it can be dangerous with long-term exposure, and smoking is a booster, but a single exposure is nothing to worry about.
only cowards who aren't exposed to this every day and who remembers a coward...
 
Rent a construction vacuum cleaner with a filter for asbest, thoroughly vacuum the premises, wet wipe floors and surfaces where dust is present. After that, you don't need to worry about it anymore.
 
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