It's unfortunate that there are so many idio... less knowledgeable people responding to something they obviously know nothing about.
The craftsman broke the law repeatedly:
He tore down asbestos instead of decontaminating.
He likely didn't have a permit to decontaminate asbestos.
He dumped the waste at the landfill.
How dangerous it is to meddle in dust that might contain asbestos is impossible to say. If I learned that this happened in a space at work, I would immediately order decontamination of the area. As a private person, covering the cost might not be so fun.
If I were you in the current situation, I would start by trying to get help through the insurance company.
The craftsman broke the law repeatedly:
He tore down asbestos instead of decontaminating.
He likely didn't have a permit to decontaminate asbestos.
He dumped the waste at the landfill.
How dangerous it is to meddle in dust that might contain asbestos is impossible to say. If I learned that this happened in a space at work, I would immediately order decontamination of the area. As a private person, covering the cost might not be so fun.
If I were you in the current situation, I would start by trying to get help through the insurance company.
Welcome to the forum. Here we are not interested in nuances in questions about asbestos. We have all inhaled so much asbestos under the impression that the dangers are exaggerated that it is simply impossible for us to do anything other than joke about it. The alternative is not so fun. And you want to have fun.C Christer Törnros said:
I have never linked asbestos to cars. That connection is your own. So you will have to stand for it yourself.Nissens said:
Exhaust fumes from a car are not particularly healthy. I thought you knew that.
One should be careful with saying there are many idiots here.C Christer Törnros said:
Especially when one's own post is mostly about all the horrible things the craftsmen have done. It doesn't help ts.
Your advice was to contact fb. Very helpful.
If you criticize many others, you should think about how your own post looks. If you had skipped sighing over all the idiots and just written, it would have been a different matter.
The subject is eternit/asbestos, and you said it's dangerous to be near a car. But you changed the subject then.Bananskalare said:
If you look around, you'll discover that many cars have no exhaust, so you're generalizing heavily...
I should have learned earlier. That your reading comprehension is so good.
You mixed asbestos into the car, not me. I was referring to the fact that car emissions are more dangerous than asbestos. I was a bit unclear at first. but I thought it was about asbestos being dangerous.
Then I introduced emissions as something more dangerous.
No, you didn't write anything about exhaust. You just wrote that it is dangerous to be near a car. In a thread that is about eternit…
There probably aren't many who understand that you suddenly mean exhaust when you don't even mention exhaust.
Is, for example, Tesla not a car then?
No, you didn't write anything about exhaust fumes. You just wrote that it's dangerous to be near a car. In a thread that is about eternit...
Not many people will understand that you suddenly mean exhaust fumes when you don't even mention exhaust fumes.
For example, is Tesla not a car then?
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SueCia
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A real car says VROOOM when you accelerate, so there!
I read a post above where you wrote "if you jump on others, you should think about how your own posts look". But that doesn't apply to you, right?
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If you don't see any remnants of the pipe, it might be that the pipe has been completely removed (more or less) and taken away for disposal. The fact that other waste has been left behind is unfortunately not uncommon; I think it will be very difficult to prove anything here.J Jennitz said:
When it comes to asbestos, it is standard on this forum to regard those who show respect/fear as fools. Even if the danger is exaggerated, it does have an effect; you probably wouldn't have heard of it otherwise.
Some unpleasant features of asbestos; small invisible fibers, swirl around in the air for up to 72 hours and are strongly affected by air currents, can't be vacuumed up with a regular vacuum cleaner, never break down, certain building materials release millions of fibers during cutting, once in your lungs they stay for life, can cause damage and irritation in the respiratory system which can lead to cancer, very difficult to determine if asbestos is really the cause of problems (problems take time to develop).
If you suspect that asbestos is present, you shouldn't ask here; read up on what it really is, how it works, and why it can be harmful. Also, look at how many fibers are released during processing (varies for different building materials) and compare it to how much one is usually exposed to. Then know that there is no general limit for what one can tolerate; it varies from case to case and often depends on a combination of factors (since no one today works in asbestos factories). If you still believe it’s serious, send some samples for testing and see if there is really anything left.
Almost all construction dust is harmful construction dust, even pressure-treated wood that many hobbyists cut without protection. If you start having problems with your respiratory system, it's usually already too late to do anything about it, but humans obviously can endure quite a lot.
The first thing we tore out when we moved into the house was a large plastic mat; since it had black glue, we sent samples that showed no asbestos. We removed the mat without masks (young and foolish), which resulted in a plastic taste and an unpleasant throat for a day or so. After this, we purchased Sundström masks which we've used for almost all unpleasant tasks since then, and that's my advice to you regardless of whether it's asbestos or not. Also, try to contain construction dust in the home, especially if you have children.
Good luck!
At the risk of also being labeled an idiot, I think you might be jumping to conclusions and making definitive statements about what happened and how dangerous it is.C Christer Törnros said:
I don't see anything in the original post that contradicts that the craftsman: 1) might have all the necessary licenses/permits to remove asbestos. 2) How do you know he didn't remove it in the best possible way? You can't remediate asbestos; it has to be physically removed. 3) When I've handled asbestos, the "landfill" has been the designated place to dispose of hazardous waste, wrapped in plastic in the case of asbestos.
I just have to reflect on the mockery towards the original questioner.
I agree, it's not very nice. But a quick search on this forum, or a Google search, would have provided the information that the danger in the described case is likely negligible.
Unfortunately, there is an irrational fear of asbestos that is not at all proportionate to the actual danger. There have been questions from worried parents because an asbestos roof is being removed 500 meters away (if I remember the distance correctly).
You can get lung cancer from one cigarette, just as minimal exposure to asbestos can be dangerous. But the probability..?
Therefore, I understand it's tempting, among regulars here, to mock when the question pops up once again.
Probably the craftsman hasn't done anything illegal at all; they have probably removed the pipe without needing to destroy it. As far as I know, it is the processing of asbestos-containing materials that craftsmen are not allowed to do without the proper authorization, but I could be wrong. Touching Eternit is probably not forbidden for craftsmen; it would be like forbidding a chimney sweep from going onto an Eternit roof.
How is it that when the original poster asks a question about asbestos, responses come in suggesting it's perfectly safe, even saying that everyone breathes in asbestos fibers everywhere without any danger, but when someone, for example, is about to remove a plastic mat, they get just as many responses warning that there might be asbestos in the glue, etc., and that they shouldn't remove the mat themselves?