Suggestions for reinforcing an existing built Lecawall against burglary?
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Don't mean to scare you. But if you have all that visible protective equipment in the form of gates etc, one might imagine that someone attempting a break-in might use a jammer. This would risk making the mobile phone a weak link in the security thinking, as it would not have contact with the mobile network.
Absolutely, you are completely right @S_O_B. There are many flaws if you analyze all possible scenarios (which I like to do), but I believe I have a better chance of getting through it than someone who has never thought about it. I want to avoid running around looking for the phone in that situation. Just get into the room as quickly as possible. It's also common for home alarms abroad to have smoke machines to make it difficult for an intruder. There are lots of fun things to think about 
You're planning to have the safety room inside the house, not against an outer wall, right? The easiest way in for a burglar is through a window or door with glass. By the way, why would you need a saferoom if it's about taking shelter from burglars? It would take a really high or truly reckless thief to attempt a break-in when the owner is home. Enjoy life instead.
I had placed the metal sheet on the outside, or what is/becomes the "attack side." It then acts more like a tough membrane and incredibly/darn near impossible to break through. If you place it on the inside, it will be much easier to just knock in the metal sheet once you've crumbled some of the cinder blocks.
Then I don't even understand the idea of building a saferoom, but that’s up to each individual, thankfully Personally, I would probably rather invest in a playroom
Then I don't even understand the idea of building a saferoom, but that’s up to each individual, thankfully
Personally, I would probably rather invest in a playroom It's not an unlikely scenario. Below are a couple of incidents from my municipality. I can think of 2-3 similar ones that I've heard about but I don't want to search for articles all evening.Jonatan79 said:
https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/stockholm/brutalt-ran-mot-barnfamilj-i-upplands-bro
https://www.expressen.se/nyheter/man-ranad-pa-sin-bil-blev-knivskadad-i-handen-/
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Mount a thin metal sheet on the outside of the wall. Use through bolts, preferably welded to the inside of the sheet so there are no visible points of attack. Glue 6mm drywall and wallpaper over it. This would require a well-equipped thief with a grinder, sledgehammer, and a lot of patience. To protect against signal jammers, you can run a cable from the room to the roof where you install an outdoor siren.
There are plenty of smoke alarms in Sweden already, although it's more common with deterrents like loud noises and strobe lights.
Attach the door with extra-long fastenings and, as you've already thought of, a casing-forming steel frame. If you also foam the joint, it's difficult to reach with a saw blade. Just don't forget that the door should be fire AND smoke-tight, preferably also gas-tight.
Whether any of this is really necessary is debatable, but when the zombies come, you'll be ready
There are plenty of smoke alarms in Sweden already, although it's more common with deterrents like loud noises and strobe lights.
Attach the door with extra-long fastenings and, as you've already thought of, a casing-forming steel frame. If you also foam the joint, it's difficult to reach with a saw blade. Just don't forget that the door should be fire AND smoke-tight, preferably also gas-tight.
Whether any of this is really necessary is debatable, but when the zombies come, you'll be ready
Yes, the walled room is in the middle of the house, without windows. It is not primarily burglars (although it can escalate), it is robbers that I want to protect the family from.
https://www.expressen.se/nyheter/brottscentralen/ranaren-knackar-pa-med-pistol-hos-barnfamiljen/
If it is to be approved by the insurance company, there are special regulations for how the wall should be reinforced (with metal).
Thanks, very good suggestions. It will be both stylish and burglar-proof, and we'll finish with the plasterboard.E EI30-SaC said:Mount a thin sheet metal on the outside of the wall. Use through bolts, preferably welded to the inside of the sheet metal so there are no visible attack points. Glue 6mm. plasterboard and wallpaper. It requires a well-equipped thief with an angle grinder, sledgehammer, and a lot of patience. To protect against signal jammers, you can run a cable from the room to the roof where you install an outdoor siren.
There are plenty of smoke alarms in Sweden already, but more common are deterrent measures like loud noises and strobe lights.
Attach the door with extra long fastening and, as you already thought, a steel frame. If you also foam the joint, it's hard to reach with a saw blade. Just don't forget that the door should be fire AND smoke tight, preferably also gas-tight.
Then whether any of this is truly necessary can be questioned, but when the zombies come, you'll be ready
I actually have a possibility to run a separate siren on the roof controlled from the room.
What I would also like to do is to hide the door with a large mirror or similar. However, I haven't figured out how it should be attached to be able to close together with the door. I guess you need to build some kind of sturdy sliding rail like those on built-in refrigerators and freezers in kitchens with an overlay door.
I don't know you or your threats, but you should probably turn to professionals if you feel a serious need for a saferoom.
With that said, this seems to give quite a stable result:
With that said, this seems to give quite a stable result:
Electric strike with electric access in the form of a tag that you store in a small frame nearby. You can wallpaper over the tag sensor. Then no handle is needed, and you can mount a large mirror over the entire door leaf. Just make sure to choose a large enough frame that you can grip to open. From the inside, you have a handle as usual. However, the door frame will not work then. You simply have to inject a suitable compound into the entire joint that is then concealed by the mirror.T Trulli said:
Here I can actually, strangely enough, assist with the aforementioned door if you want to move from fantasy to action
I think it will be difficult to get mobile coverage inside a Faraday-cage-protected room? And then you probably want a solution that protects against being smoked out with something like tear gas or similar. That is, how are you going to handle fresh air? Every pipe penetration for cabling, etc., will probably be a weak point but perhaps low probability.
I can understand the desire to protect oneself against "random robbers." But if you have something that motivates a planned robbery, where someone actually decides to start breaking through a wall, they will succeed no matter what you do.
But in that case, it’s about a few hundred kilos of gold you have at home, or your large collection of original Picassos. The type of robber who targets an ordinary family doesn't want to be there for many seconds without having full control over what you do. They can't know if the police will be there today within one or 20 minutes.
I think you can get quite far with an alarm connected to a security company. A robber doesn't stay when the panic alarm goes off. Regular burglar alarms against thieves don't always work. They might continue searching for a few minutes even after the alarm has gone off.
If you also have a camera connected to the panic alarm so the security company can see what's happening, then police, not security guards, will come directly.
I have a relative who was saved by such an alarm. It wasn't about a robbery, but another relative with problems. The house looked like a war zone afterward; the police entered through all the house's (locked) doors simultaneously. The same "problematic relative" was after us a little later, which was quite scary. Now, 10 years later, the situation has calmed down a bit.
But in that case, it’s about a few hundred kilos of gold you have at home, or your large collection of original Picassos. The type of robber who targets an ordinary family doesn't want to be there for many seconds without having full control over what you do. They can't know if the police will be there today within one or 20 minutes.
I think you can get quite far with an alarm connected to a security company. A robber doesn't stay when the panic alarm goes off. Regular burglar alarms against thieves don't always work. They might continue searching for a few minutes even after the alarm has gone off.
If you also have a camera connected to the panic alarm so the security company can see what's happening, then police, not security guards, will come directly.
I have a relative who was saved by such an alarm. It wasn't about a robbery, but another relative with problems. The house looked like a war zone afterward; the police entered through all the house's (locked) doors simultaneously. The same "problematic relative" was after us a little later, which was quite scary. Now, 10 years later, the situation has calmed down a bit.