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Why use a screwdriver really ?
I don't understand the discussion about what private individuals are allowed to do and what professionals are not allowed to do. Private individuals are, in this case, clients for professionals and they get to decide what professionals should do. If they want a historically correct nailed pier, then the craftsman will do that. If they want a modern screwed deck, that's what it will be.
That's true, at least as long as it doesn't involve directly dangerous constructions, but the craftsman who understands how important the legal part is should have it in writing that the customer has ordered exactly that execution, otherwise, the craftsman might be the one to take the hit.harry73 said:I don't understand the discussion about what private individuals can do and what professionals cannot do. Private individuals are, in this case, clients for professionals and they get to decide what professionals should do. If they want a historically accurate nailed dock, then the craftsman makes it. If they want a modern screwed deck, then that's what it will be.
Chris, my source on this is inspectors. I don't have an Internet source.
Edit:
There are private individuals who not only order the work from a craftsman but instead perform it themselves. These are the ones referred to when it is said that private individuals can do as they please.
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· Dalarna
· 3 173 posts
I understand 
As I said, I agree with you in principle. But the reason I questioned it was because our old (2012) newly built BRF had the decking nailed down, including walkways, terraces, balconies, and stairs. Pure idiocy. It took almost a day to hammer down the nail heads each spring and fall. Today, I would definitely have reacted to that.
As I said, I agree with you in principle. But the reason I questioned it was because our old (2012) newly built BRF had the decking nailed down, including walkways, terraces, balconies, and stairs. Pure idiocy. It took almost a day to hammer down the nail heads each spring and fall. Today, I would definitely have reacted to that.
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· Halland
· 28 345 posts
When I previously replaced the roof and removed the battens, which in our case were 50*100 joists, I was glad it was nailed and not screwed.
The demolition was considerably easier
And then the reassembly was significantly cheaper with nails than screws.
Several know-it-all neighbors claimed that I was wrong to use nails.
The demolition was considerably easier
And then the reassembly was significantly cheaper with nails than screws.
Several know-it-all neighbors claimed that I was wrong to use nails.
Yes, you can talk about pre-drilling, so why not.KnockOnWood said:
Regarding battens on the roof:
Perfectly fine to nail. The material is not exposed to the same moisture differences as the decking on a patio and therefore the wood won't shrink/expand alternately, so it works perfectly well to nail.
Then I would probably choose to do it with a nail gun, but that's another discussion.
I used a hammer.Robban_C said:Yes, you can definitely talk about pre-drilling, so why not.
Regarding battens on the roof:
It's completely fine to nail. The material isn't subjected to the same moisture differences as decking on a terrace, and thus the wood won't shrink/expand repeatedly, so nailing works perfectly fine there.
Then, I would probably choose to do it with a nail gun, but that's another discussion.![]()
I could still feel it in my arm 2 weeks after
Then there is a difference between newly cut timber, which contains a larger amount of moisture and consequently shrinks more than typically dried construction timber. When it comes to decking, it is subject to pressure every time we walk on it, which can cause nails to be pushed outwards, unlike, for example, roof battens. And I myself use nails for paneling because I think it looks nicer with a flat head that is significantly less visible. I tried screwing some paneling on the garage, but the screw heads are visible despite the paint. A 4-inch nail in the panel board holds sufficiently well.
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