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I am looking for a larger batch of firebricks for a pizza oven, about 200 bricks. Any tips on where to get them at a reasonable price? Delivery or pickup starting from Gothenburg.

Bauhaus and similar stores are not an option since they charge ~50kr per brick (totaling 10,000kr). I've checked smaller webshops that have bricks for 25-35kr each, but they are far away and have shipping costs of 2,500-5,000kr.
 
Did a quick Google search and found this, 19-26 SEK/stone and shipping for 700. However, I have no knowledge about the company.
 
  • Shopping cart screenshot from Lakkapaa.se showing refractory bricks priced at 19 SEK each. Total cost: 3,864 SEK, shipping: 662 SEK, total with VAT: 4,526 SEK.
My local XL-bygg has firebrick "in stock," albeit at less affordable prices, but it might be worth stopping by to negotiate...

However, the bricks aren't the only expensive part of a pizza oven; you'll need both good insulation under the oven (=calcium silicate board) and over (=ceramic fiber (which isn't ceramic anymore)). Both of these items are tricky to transport, so it might be advantageous to buy everything from the same place at the same time to save on shipping....
 
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tttomten TomasJor said:
Did a quick Google search and found this, 19-26 SEK/stone and shipping for 700. However, I'm not familiar with the company.
Lakkapaa is actually on my list too, and more or less in first place at the moment. But as you said, I'm not familiar with the company. And unfortunately, I think the shipping will be 2200 SEK if you read the fine print, due to crane/weight. Despite that, a better price than many places.

Pickup somewhere within a manageable distance would probably be even better.

Dan_Johansson Dan_Johansson said:
My local XL-bygg has refractory bricks "in stock," albeit at less cheap prices, but it might be worth stopping by to negotiate...

However, the bricks are not the only expensive part of a pizza oven, you also need good insulation under the oven (=calcium silicate board) and above (=ceramic blanket (which is no longer ceramic)). Both of these things are tricky to ship, so it might be advantageous to buy everything from the same place, at the same time, to save on shipping....
Fully aware of the additional costs in the back of my mind, but this is probably the major item so to speak? ;) Also trying, as you said, to find a supplier that can handle all the bulky items in one order. That or at least manage to keep it to two orders.

Thanks for now, just keep the good tips coming.
 
If it's only the extra cost for a crane truck that makes the transport expensive, maybe you can get help with unloading from someone with a forklift?

For example, unload at an industry nearby where you can pick up in stages over a weekend?
 
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I do have Lakkapaa on my list and more or less in the top spot at the moment. But as you said, I'm not familiar with the company. And unfortunately, I think the shipping will be 2200kr if you read the fine print, because of the crane/weight. Despite that, a better price than many places.

Picking up somewhere within manageable distance would probably be even better.

Fully aware of additional costs in the back of my mind, but this is probably the significant cost so to speak? ;) Also trying, as you said, to find a supplier that can take all the bulky items in one order. That or at least managing to keep it to two orders.

Thanks so far, just keep those good tips coming
What kind of oven are you planning to build? I assume you've already found Forno Bravo and gone wild in the forum there...
What are you planning for the foundation?

Admittedly, the brick is a major post, but I would say it's difficult to keep it under a third of the total cost, depending on what you do for the foundation and structure, and what level you lay insulation and the chimney at... My oven cost around 10000 kr to build, and I got the bricks for free. However, I bought calcium silicate board and ceramic fiber as insulation, which could have been done cheaper...
 
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It's not a dumb idea actually. The question is whether the requirement for unloading with a crane is still included since things also need to be loaded. It might be a good idea to call and ask some questions anyway.
 
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Dan_Johansson Dan_Johansson said:
What kind of oven are you planning to build? I assume you've already found Forno Bravo and dived into the forum there...
What are you thinking for the foundation?

Although the bricks are a big part, I would say it's difficult to get it under a third of the total cost, depending on what you do for the foundation and superstructure, and what level you lay the insulation and chimney at... My oven cost around 10,000 SEK to build, and I got the bricks for free.. However, I bought calcium silicate board and ceramic fiber for insulation, which could have been done cheaper...
That's correct, many, many days of research on Forno Bravo, their guide, and here on the forum, including the thread for a pizza oven with a pilates ball.

The project is still in its early stages, and as I understand it, I must/should wait until about April for the project when the temperature is somewhat stable. So sourcing materials for now.

It started with a fleeting idea of a pilates ball oven done in a day's work and ended with a full-scale pizza oven according to all the rules of the art. Two options are relevant so far; cast vault ("home brew" refractory mortar/casting for thermal mass) or a vault with refractory bricks.

On top of this, I will throw in some suggestions from the book written by the guys at Lilla Napoli as well. Neapolitan form, biscotti floor, etc.
 
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Ganlet Ganlet said:
I actually have Lakkapaa on the list, and more or less in first place at the moment. But as you say, I'm not familiar with the company. And unfortunately, I think the shipping will be 2200kr if you read the fine print, due to crane/weight. Despite that, it's a better price than many places.

Pickup somewhere within manageable distance would have probably been even better.

Fully aware of additional costs in the back of the mind, but this is the big ticket item, so to speak? ;) Also trying, as you say, to find a supplier who can take all the bulky items in one order. That, or at least manage to keep it to two orders.

Thanks so far, just continuing with more good tips
A crane is preferable, but for 700 kg, I would have chosen to save the hard-earned money.

As Dan already said, check with the local dealer; their official price is for small purchases for fireplaces, etc., so you will probably get a much better price if you stop by and speak with them.
 
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Ganlet Ganlet said:
That's right, many many days of research on Forno Bravo, their guide, and here on the forum in the thread for pizza oven with Pilates ball.

The project is still in its early stages, as I understand it, I must/should wait with the project until around April when the temperature should remain somewhat stable. So sourcing materials for now.

It started with a fleeting idea of a Pilates ball oven in a day's work and ended with a full-scale pizza oven according to all the rules of the art. Two options are current as of now, cast vault ("home brew" refractory mortar/casting mix for thermal mass) or a vault with firebrick.

I will also throw in some suggestions from the book the guys at Lilla napoli wrote. Neapolitan shape, biscotti floor, etc.
If Neapolitan pizza is priority one, you're right to make a lower ceiling. I have a semicircular dome, and it's difficult to get an even color on the top/underside...

Choosing between casting or building is not simple of course, but if you're going to do everything around it properly, you'll realize that the difference in cost is minimal...

Casting a dome on a gym ball with "homebrew" and placing it on some garden tiles is one thing, but anything more serious than that quickly escalates...
 
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Dan_Johansson Dan_Johansson said:
If Neapolitan pizza is priority number one, you are right to make a lower ceiling. I have a half-circle dome, and it's difficult to get an even color on the top/bottom...

Choosing between casting or building with bricks isn't straightforward, of course, but if you're going to do everything properly around it, you'll realize that the cost difference is minimal...

Casting a dome on a gym ball with "homebrew" and placing it on a few garden slabs is one thing, but anything more serious than that quickly gets expensive...
Time is a factor I have in the calculation as well, but now I'm leaning towards bricks.

Saw your build in the pilates thread, looks solid and well-insulated (y) Getting even color, do you not think it has to do with the type of refractory in the roof and arch? I'm speculating on the available qualities here versus what is usually found in the USA.
 
I will personally build a Norrland baking oven this spring/summer, so I have among other things the same material needs. Approximately 200+ firebricks and 500+ bricks plus a lot of other things. Interesting that the link above was so cheap for 65 bricks (which I want). I will personally visit two local builders' merchants and see what price I can get in the next couple of weeks.
 
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Time is a factor that I also consider in the calculation, but now I'm leaning towards masonry.

I saw your build in the pilates thread, it looks solid and well-insulated (y) To get an even color, don't you think it might have to do with the type of refractory material in the roof and arch? I'm speculating about the available qualities here versus what is usually found in the USA.
Nah, I don't think the material makes any difference at all actually. Since the pizza is on stone, you have immediate heat transfer there. The top is just radiant heat, and then the height of the oven makes a big difference...

I have to light in the opening and then fire up the heat at the far end of the oven; otherwise, the floor gets too hot. I struggle to get over 400-420 degrees in the roof and 320 degrees on the floor... No 90-second pizzas here unfortunately...
 
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Z zeveta said:
Saw this ad on Blocket on Friday, but maybe not the right kind of stone? It is a bit of a drive too.

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Looked at that too, was thinking of suggesting it here in the thread in case anyone was looking for stones. I was close to taking a chance and booking a load and stopping by. But an acquaintance had a batch at their yard. Höganäs 64mm for a friend's price including delivery, you can't say no to that.
 
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