They had sturdy spik.
 
Norrhyttan said:
Then I, being inexperienced, must ask - how did house builders manage in the past, when there were no screwdrivers? My house is 130 years old and still stands firmly, despite not having a single screw in the frame!
Well, the question is posed somewhat like how we managed without cars 130 years ago. Progress...........
 
AndersS said:
Yes, but the question is roughly posed like how we could manage without cars 130 years ago. Development...........
What I meant was that there are different ways to do things, and the latest is not always indispensable. Sure, one should take advantage of new technology if possible. But many times, people claim that it can't be done any other way. Just look at plunge saws, which are now owned by everyone. A few years ago, only Martin Timell had one, yet the jobs still got done!
 
AndersS said:
Yes, but the question is roughly posed as how we could manage without cars 130 years ago. Development...........
Well, not quite. My initial question was whether it was really better to screw, especially decking, instead of using a hammer and nails. Just because screwdrivers are useful for many things doesn't mean they're better for everything. That technology advances is one thing, but it's a completely different matter in which situations it's appropriate to use tech gadgets. If I have 50 meters to walk to the store, it's not certain that it's better to take my 2012 car model to shop there - It could actually still be better to walk the 50 meters to the store, despite the undeniable progress in car development over the last 130 years....
 
Well, the answer I gave was related to the comparison with a 130-year-old house, i.e., even the assembly with nails from back then is not comparable in terms of dimensions, surface treatment, etc. My point in other posts is that the regular "screwdriver" has already been replaced by other tools/machines and the development continues. Then one can always use older technology if one is comfortable with it and feels they achieve better results. If a craftsman were to, for example, start nailing a deck today, I can guarantee protests from many customers ;)
 
AndersS said:
If a craftsman today, for example, started nailing a deck, I can guarantee protests from many customers;)
Surely it is so :)
 
I like nailing, and I'm good at it, but it's incredibly loud. I've never thought about it before, but now that I'm used to wearing hearing protection around machines, I'm more aware of the noise level.

Old carpenters must have serious hearing damage.
 
Everyone over 60 I know has hearing loss, maybe there's a connection? :)
 
I’m asking a counter-question, why use a hammer at all? Standing and banging like an idiot on a plank when you can screw so quickly and neatly with a power driver...
 
Nails are good for building with, cheap, and you can use a nail gun if you want real speed.

I myself have a 1940s house, and tearing it down without a reciprocating saw is practically impossible. Thick nails crisscrossed make it impossible to use a pry bar—probably works with a board on a stud, but stud against stud with nails both at angles in the ends and straight through the stud is tough.

I imagine that screws are much easier to dismantle (though not all screws since sometimes they are so hard that a multipurpose tool blade doesn't bite and you have to saw anyway?
 
gubblurven said:
I ask a counter-question, why use a hammer at all? Standing and banging like an idiot on a plank when you can screw so quickly and nicely with a drill...
What to do if the electricity runs out. Screw by hand.. Don't think so...
 
You can always use one of these
 
  • A manual hand drill with a wooden handle and metal body lying on a white surface.
raveper said:
You can always use one of these
But where can you buy those nowadays? I've been looking, but it seems hard to find. I wish for a smaller model that fits in a pocket when folded.
 
raveper said:
You can always use one of these
But then you also need to have a brace or drill bit nearby so you can pre-drill if you're going to screw ;)
 
An impact wrench is a nut driver and the equivalent for screws should logically be called a screwdriver, but I think it's called an impact driver.

If we're going to talk about noise from hammers, the impact driver isn't far behind.

And isn't the trend that nail tools (nail gun) are on the rise? Craftsmen run around with compressors even for small jobs.
 
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