Hello!
My partner and I have found a holiday home that we are interested in. We're just a bit unsure about how the house is built. It says the foundation is stone base and pillars, and the frame is made of wood. But the facade is made of masonite and rib. What does that mean? Masonite and rib don't sound very durable... ???
Hope someone here on the forum can help us understand.
Thanks in advance!
My partner and I have found a holiday home that we are interested in. We're just a bit unsure about how the house is built. It says the foundation is stone base and pillars, and the frame is made of wood. But the facade is made of masonite and rib. What does that mean? Masonite and rib don't sound very durable... ???
Hope someone here on the forum can help us understand.
Thanks in advance!
In this thread, you will find an explanation:
http://www.byggahus.se/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=byggmatr;action=display;num=1081806252
http://www.byggahus.se/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=byggmatr;action=display;num=1081806252
If you *want*, it's a job you can manage yourselves, the material cost is not astronomical....Bhombina said:Thanks for the answer! I have read the thread and I guess we have to bring an inspector and try to find out if it needs to be replaced... It sounds expensive to replace the facade.
Which naturally means,MathiasS said:
that the cost does not eat up the profit
By the way, I recommend replacing the masonite-rib
facade.
The masonite tends to become dented, the rib is often
too sparingly sized, and the overall impression is too
much like an allotment cottage (apologies to all allotment owners!) to be enjoyable.
//KoW
Hello again. Thanks for all the answers. I have taken a closer look at the facade and it is, as Knock-on-wood describes, a bit "buckled." I'll have to talk to the inspector about that as well. The house and especially the location are really nice... It's tough when you fall in love with a place like that!
Neither my partner nor I are particularly handy, so I don't think we can manage to change the facade. What could it roughly cost with labor and materials for a 1.5-story house of 60 sqm?
Neither my partner nor I are particularly handy, so I don't think we can manage to change the facade. What could it roughly cost with labor and materials for a 1.5-story house of 60 sqm?
It's not all negative with Masonite and battens; if they weren't there, maybe the wall paneling would be more severely damaged by weather and wind, because surely there is paneling under the Masonite, right?
Often the wall paneling is relatively fine under the Masonite, and it seems more like a trend to nail Masonite or asfaboard with battens, plus it doesn't blow straight through the wall either!
Try to carefully remove a bit of the Masonite in some spots to see how it looks underneath; perhaps the (possible) paneling is in such good condition that it just needs new battens and trim, or maybe the Masonite is nailed on to hide something really ugly :-/
Often the wall paneling is relatively fine under the Masonite, and it seems more like a trend to nail Masonite or asfaboard with battens, plus it doesn't blow straight through the wall either!
Try to carefully remove a bit of the Masonite in some spots to see how it looks underneath; perhaps the (possible) paneling is in such good condition that it just needs new battens and trim, or maybe the Masonite is nailed on to hide something really ugly :-/
Oh yes! You can do more than you think!Bhombina said:
You can easily calculate the price for this yourself. Facade area * 7 (7m per sqm for 21x145) * 10 (21x145 costs about 10 SEK). Then you need the same amount of meter lockläkt. It costs around 5 SEK per meter.What will probably make both time and money run away is that you probably want to replace everything at the same time to make it completely fresh. Then there is painting a few rounds to add. It's easy to turn things into a really big project just because you're 'already at it.' I'm an expert at that
dogen said:Joho! You can handle more than you think!
What will likely cause both time and money to escalate is that you'll probably want to replace everything at the same time so it stays fresh. Then you also have a couple of rounds of painting. It's easy to turn something into a really big project just because you're 'already at it'. I'm an expert at that
Hehe.... I realize we might be dumber about this than we think... I can calculate, but I don't even understand what you mean. What is lockläkt, for example? ???
Just so I understand the cost anyway... If the facade is 60 sqm should we take 60 sqm x (7+10+5 kr) = 1320 kr. Is that all?? That doesn't seem as expensive as I feared. Plus an hourly rate maybe for a skilled carpenter. We'll probably have to handle the carpenter's assistant if I can drag my partner away from fishing for a few days....
The bidding on the house starts soon and it's good to have as much information as possible so BIG THANKS to everyone for your posts! ;D
Yes, exactly. It will be as charta says. However, you probably have more than 60 square meters of façade area (i.e., the sum of all wall surfaces). You'll need as many meters of lockläkt, and it is surprisingly expensive at places like Beijers. It might be much cheaper elsewhere (I think it’s around 4-5kr/m there).
A carpenter would likely do it fairly quickly, but it ends up being 99% hard labor and 1% 'carpentry', which is why I think you could manage it just as well yourselves. Don't you have any parents/in-laws who can help?
Oh right, lockläkten are the narrow pieces that cover the seams. They have a groove you can't see when it's installed, for better fit, hence the name 'lock'.
A carpenter would likely do it fairly quickly, but it ends up being 99% hard labor and 1% 'carpentry', which is why I think you could manage it just as well yourselves. Don't you have any parents/in-laws who can help?
Oh right, lockläkten are the narrow pieces that cover the seams. They have a groove you can't see when it's installed, for better fit, hence the name 'lock'.
Hmm... no, we don't have any parents who can help with that unfortunately. We have my mom who is very skilled, but she probably prefers simpler painting work on furniture and maybe some small wallpapering or so. And my partner is hard to tear away from fishing.
But now I think I've at least gotten a pretty good picture of what is needed to get the facade ok. It's so exciting - the bidding is tomorrow....
BIG THANKS to all of you who have given us more information here!
But now I think I've at least gotten a pretty good picture of what is needed to get the facade ok. It's so exciting - the bidding is tomorrow....
BIG THANKS to all of you who have given us more information here!