Exterior sliding door indoors!

[Miinoo]

Hello!
The thing is, in our bedroom we don't have the possibility to have a hinged door, but it feels a bit revealing when we have guests...
So I've been thinking about various solutions, a curtain, a folding door, etc. But now I've come up with an idea that I really feel makes a good impression too!

An external sliding door, however, I'm completely confused about how to proceed...

What I've looked at are these, so you get an idea of what we want:
https://www.amazon.com/TCBunny-Slid...54-20&linkId=cbdfbe93c4e3e4fb984857aee55d5ba9
However, they don't ship this to Sweden, and I haven't really found it anywhere else without it costing nearly 2000 kr...

So we looked at this one
https://www.jula.se/catalog/bygg-oc...kjutdorrsbeslag/beslag-till-skjutdorr-343480/
However, it doesn't have great reviews? And I'm unsure if it can be mounted on the wall?

These are the doors we were thinking of (putting them together as one door)
https://m2.ikea.com/se/sv/p/liatorp-panel-vitrindoerr-gra-60269364/

How do we solve this best and relatively cheaply? Does the Jula hardware work for our purpose?

All tips and tricks are warmly welcome!

 

[Mazen]

Check these out, surface-mounted wheels that are hung on a rail on the wall will be easier to install and work better for your purpose.

Habo has a budget version
https://www.k-rauta.se/byggvaruhus/...MIgO_OyKvr2gIVy7_tCh1vfwFIEAQYBiABEgJJ4fD_BwE

Husbeslag.se has several models
https://husbeslag.se/skjutdorrsbeslag-komplett-basic-matt-svart-0023-450101.html
They are more expensive, but nicer

How did you plan to assemble the IKEA doors? Attach a full panel on the back and cut out for the glass?

 

[Miinoo]

Check these out, external wheels that hang on a rail on the wall will be easier to mount and work better for your purpose.

How were you planning to assemble the IKEA doors? Attach a whole board on the back and cut out for the glass?

The one at k-rauta is unfortunately only for ceiling mounting apparently

The one from specialbeslag is the one I've looked at, but I don't feel like spending that much money when it's a door that will be used only a few times a month at most...

I was thinking of being "cheap" and just attaching them with smaller metal plates on the back and then painting them so it doesn't stand out too much... Maybe a little adhesive in between if I want to be really festive

 

[Mazen]

Here's something more affordable, okay the rail is stated to be for ceiling mounting, but I don't see why it would be impossible to mount on a wall. Build a box that you attach to the wall with angle brackets, then screw the rail into the ceiling of the box. You might want to paint it the same color as the doors.
Hanging roller 49:- each. Rail 69:-/m. Floor rail 29:-/m. Guide pin 29:-

https://www.specialbeslag.se/skjutd...MI3dHP_K_r2gIVzLXtCh2EdgAmEAQYFiABEgLwXPD_BwE

If you're using perforated metal, attach a strip glued and screwed at the top and bottom to reinforce it. Adhesive is also never wrong..

 

[Miinoo]

Here is something more affordable, okay the track states it's for ceiling mounting, but I don't see why it couldn't be mounted on the wall. Build a box that you attach to the wall with angle brackets, then screw the track to the ceiling of the box. You might want to paint it the same color as the doors.
Hanging roller 49:- each. Track 69:-/m. Floor track 29:-/m. Guide pin 29:-

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If you use perforated steel, put a strip glued and screwed at the top and bottom to stiffen it. Adhesive is also never a bad idea..

So I'm on the right track at least.. It'll probably be that or the Jula thing, I just have such a hard time visualizing how things should be attached, etc.. But you mean that on the track, the one that would have been in the middle of the wall if it were mounted on the ceiling, you'd drill new holes there and attach with countersunk screws so it doesn't get in the way?
I'm also thinking a bit about how to manage the bottom.. I don't really want a floor track; would it work either if it just hangs or if it's supported with small wheels?

The strip idea seems good, I even think you could use corner lists in wood both at the top and bottom? Maybe that complicates the hanging setup a bit though...

 

[Mazen]

The one from Jula will definitely work if you make a box and use its "roof." Corner moldings are definitely an option.

In the package, there is a guide pin that attaches to the floor (usually located just before the opening), so you need a groove on the bottom of the door.
The simplest is a strip that you mill a groove into and screw onto the doors.
No track or wheels are needed as all the weight hangs in the track.

 

[Miinoo]

The one from Jula will definitely work if you make a box and use its "roof." Corner moldings are definitely an option.

The kit includes a guide pin that attaches to the floor (usually positioned just before the opening), so you need a groove at the bottom of the door.
The simplest way is a strip that you rout a groove into and screw into the doors.
No track or wheels are needed as all the weight hangs in the rail.

Yes, the one from Jula probably works too, but the question is the difference in quality between the two.. I feel like spending a hundred or two more on the one that seems to last longer..

I'm having a bit of difficulty visualizing how the guide pin should be. But you mean that you attach it to the floor just before the opening.. So that you then need some form of groove/strip under the door that the guide pin can be guided into?

 

[Mazen]

 

[Miinoo]

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Nice! I understand exactly then.. Ah well, I have a bit to choose from, I like the design of the special fitting, but it only holds 20kg... the package on the doors according to Ikea is a little over 19kg, but that includes the box etc... But then the moldings etc also need to go on the doors... So maybe it won't hold after all? The Jula molding has 2 tracks and only really needs 1 track...

 

[Miinoo]

Then comes my last question really.. Where can one turn to get help with milling a piece of molding? It's definitely not something I'm going to attempt

 

[Mazen]

Otherwise, put three wheels and you'll be on the safe side. The weight won't be much more than 20kg even with mouldings. Worse if you do as I suggested and glue a whole sheet behind.

Jula moulding comes with a groove.

https://www.jula.se/catalog/bygg-oc...eslag/skjutdorrsbeslag/aluminiumskena-343481/

Instead of a wooden moulding with a milled groove, this could be an option. (Don't know the thickness of the peg, so you should test and see if it works)

https://m.conrad.se/category.htm?we...ium=&utm_campaign=kelkoo_feed&utm_term=181287

I know for instance Bauhaus has it, but didn't find it in a quick search.

Now it's just to get started

 

[Miinoo]

Otherwise, set three wheels to be on the safe side. The weight won't be much more than 20kg even with listers. It's worse if you do as I suggested and glue a whole board behind it.

The Jula lister comes with a slot.

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Instead of a wooden lister with a milled slot, this could be an alternative (though I don't know the thickness of the peg, so you'll have to test and see if it works).

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I know, for example, Bauhaus has it, but I didn't find it in a quick search.

Now it's just to get started

Haha yeah, I saw that later too... But I just keep finding more "obstacles" the more I look.

If I choose the Jula solution with 1 track, it should be mounted on the ceiling. If I mount it on the wall, will this affect its weight capacity? Or do I need to build with studs so it has support from both the side and ceiling? Then I would probably need to drill through both "side walls" to be able to get the screw straight in, right? I still want to keep the door frame, so I need to come up with a solution to extend the track a bit.

I searched for U track and found the ones you linked; I also saw wooden ones at Bauhaus, so it will probably be either that or wheels for support.

I probably need to calculate the whole thing before I start, just realized the wall is shorter than I thought, so I need to find doors that are a maximum of 80cm to hide them, but they need to be larger to cover properly dilemmas..

 

[Mazen]

It's always a bit of tricks and tips to get your own solutions...

Upload a picture with measurements and I'll see if I have time to sketch a bit more on it.
With a box that is properly anchored to the wall, I think you can handle the weight with, for example, Jula rail.
Screw the rail straight up, so no new holes are needed.

 

[TeroM]

Can't you just go with a standard solution like this?



https://www.bauhaus.se/utanpaliggande-skjutdorr-slat-kompakt-10x21-med-skena.html

 

[Miinoo]

There's always a bit of trial and error in creating custom solutions..

Post an image with dimensions and I'll see if I have time to sketch it out further.
With a box that is properly anchored to the wall, I think you can handle the weight with, for example, Jula's rail.
The rail you screw straight up so no new holes are needed.

Ah okay

There's a wardrobe on the side where it should be "hidden", but it has a cover piece on that side that can be removed to create a space. The cover piece is 10cm from the wardrobe to the door trim.