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A lot of children develop asthma and allergies.

What has already happened when we didn’t know better is hard to fix afterwards, other than by living healthily.

One of the builders here had already bought a sandbox, the other would never buy one, was heard now.

You get sick sooner or later, usually later, if it happens too early, one can be struck by regret over sins, like a smoker with emphysema.
 
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JLT said:
There are risks with letting children play in the sandbox regardless of the material of the box itself. As you previously mentioned, children CAN put sand in their mouths, which is not good. Personally, I don't think you should take that risk; after all, there is a law about the Best Interest of the Child. Laws should also be followed.

If you nevertheless defy this law, you might consider a plastic sandbox, or why not just a big pile of sand to put the child in? Don't forget to perform an origin check of the sand, as there might be traces of exhaust fumes from machines and other things used during production.
I never mentioned sand in the mouth; it was perhaps someone else who takes health seriously.
 
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ClasseClas said:
I bought a sandbox - kit - in larch wood for the boys when they were little. The wood was completely untreated and it's said that larch wood is quite durable even without treatment. After 5-6 years, the wood had started to rot in the parts that had ground contact, so I shipped the timber into the sauna stove for further use...

Can't you get those larch wood sandboxes anymore?  ??? ::)
Fredells has an octagonal nice one for 2900:- or a small untreated one with a lid for 300
 
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Annaman said:
You get sick sooner or later, usually later, if it happens too early you may suffer from remorse about sins
Indeed, life itself is a 'dangerous' journey and naturally, you avoid what you believe is directly dangerous/harmful for the children.

I don't really understand what the problem is, if you perceive that the pressure-treated wood is a risk of such magnitude for your child that you are not willing to take, I respect that.

BUT why insinuate about "law of the child's best interest", "no children should have", "remorse for sins", "take health seriously" etc. etc.

Now buy the untreated one or build it yourself, then at least that risk is eliminated for you, at least at home, because who knows what the playground equipment at daycare is made of.

Regards :)//Christina.
 
Incredibly well-articulated Christina! I can only agree with you :)
 
Good people, let the discussion continue on the topic of building materials - pressure-treated wood and alternatives thereto. Posts about child-rearing, children's well-being, and what you can and cannot do with children will continue to be removed from this thread.

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byggimpert said:
Certainly, life itself is a 'dangerous' journey, and naturally, one avoids what one believes is directly dangerous/harmful for the children.

Actually, I don't quite understand what the problem is. If you feel that the pressure-treated wood poses a risk of such magnitude for your child, which you are not willing to take, I respect that.

BUT why make insinuations about "law for the child's best interest," "no children should have," "repent for sins," "take health seriously," and so on.

Now buy the untreated one or build it yourself, and that risk is at least eliminated for you, at least at home, because who knows what the playground equipment at daycare is made of.

Best regards :)//Christina.
The interesting thing about this law is that such items can be sold for children, which needs to be addressed further as not everyone has the foresight. We ourselves fell into the trap and now have a brand new deck, which might need a mat, as the construction was expedited with carpenters for the child. I'll check with the municipality since they are supposed to be so environmentally conscious.
 
It is probably quite accurate as described that impregnation agents are toxic to both aquatic organisms and us two-legged creatures. However, one should not forget the fundamental principle that everything is toxic; it is, however, a question of dosage. That a child playing in a sandbox for a few hours per week over a couple of years would be exposed to any significant health risk regarding the wood that the sandbox frame is made of is something I find extremely hard to imagine. It can be considered a relatively well-ventilated environment, so any evaporation that might occur from the wood should be of minor importance, and most children probably do not spend their sandbox time licking or gnawing on the wood. Ergo, the dose/concentration that the child is exposed to in terms of impregnation agents should be negligibly small. My two cents on the subject.
 
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Loffe said:
It is likely quite true as described that the impregnation agents are toxic to both aquatic organisms and us two-legged creatures. However, one should not forget the basic principle that everything is toxic; it is a matter of dosage. The idea that a child playing in a sandbox for a few hours a week over a couple of years would be exposed to any significant health risk from the timber the sandbox frame is made of is extremely hard for me to imagine. It should be considered a relatively well-ventilated environment, so the evaporation that might occur from the timber is likely to be of minor importance, and most children probably don't spend their sandbox time licking or gnawing on the timber? Ergo, the dose/concentration the child is exposed to concerning impregnation agents is likely vanishingly small. My two cents on the subject.
Small children lick and chew on everything that might have been there, we now have a untreated box, so the next investigation will be on our new deck, check with the one who sold the timber.
 
when I was younger I had a sandbox made from a large tractor tire.

thoughts on this?

personally, I think it seems like a convenient idea. but I am fairly uninformed about whether tractor tires are toxic. does anyone know?
 
Mikachu said:
anyone who knows?
::) Tractor tires are most dangerous when they're on the tractor. :P ;D
 
Immobil said:
::) Tractor tires are most dangerous when they're on the tractor. :P ;D
;D
 
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Mikachu said:
when I was younger, I had a sandbox made from a large tractor tire.

any thoughts on this?

personally, I think it seems like a convenient idea. but I am fairly uninformed about whether tractor tires are toxic. does anyone know?
Only for breakfast lunch and dinner or when you burn them ;D
;D
 
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""You have asked about what impregnation agent we use.

We use Volmanit CX-8 for both class A and class AB.

Class A (for use in ground or water) 3.7% CX-8 with penetration of 22 kg/m³ wood

Class AB (for use above ground) 2.0% CX-8 with penetration of 12 kg/m³ wood

Information about this should be available by the wood in the lumberyard as well as at the checkout.""
 
The impregnating agents are very toxic, but the final product that is pressure-treated wood cannot be particularly dangerous. As long as you don't inhale sawdust/sanding dust or eat it....

We will continue to walk barefoot on pressure-treated decks.

8-)
 
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