I have a question that I don't want to bring up with my partner (the builder). We are building a house and garage with timber, starting with the garage first. My partner is now installing drywall in the garage, and then he plans to add siding. He intends to do the same with the exterior wall of the house.
I find it strange, shouldn't it be a WOODEN WALL
like real wood in the wall besides the siding?! I don't think drywall seems particularly solid, isn't there any other alternative? How is a wall actually constructed?
Yes, I know it's a bit of an embarrassing question :-[
I'm probably completely off base ...
I find it strange, shouldn't it be a WOODEN WALL
like real wood in the wall besides the siding?! I don't think drywall seems particularly solid, isn't there any other alternative? How is a wall actually constructed? Yes, I know it's a bit of an embarrassing question :-[
I'm probably completely off base ...
The stupid question. It's the one you don't ask
This one, however, is pretty good.
Your dear builder is doing the right thing. He's putting up moisture-resistant exterior gypsum that stops the wind outside the house, and then it will be covered with something nicer. In your case, panels.
Inside, between the studs, you fill it with insulation.
On the inside, there will be a layer of plastic to prevent moisture on that side, and then gypsum or chipboard/boards. As a finishing touch, it should be painted or wallpapered.
This one, however, is pretty good.
Your dear builder is doing the right thing. He's putting up moisture-resistant exterior gypsum that stops the wind outside the house, and then it will be covered with something nicer. In your case, panels.
Inside, between the studs, you fill it with insulation.
On the inside, there will be a layer of plastic to prevent moisture on that side, and then gypsum or chipboard/boards. As a finishing touch, it should be painted or wallpapered.
Hm, when did they stop putting wood in the walls..? When they stopped using logs or?
I think it's strange anyway. How is this house supposed to last for 100 years as I had planned?
Good thing my partner doesn't know what silly questions I ask here
And good thing I'm anonymous so he doesn't have to be embarrassed!
I think it's strange anyway. How is this house supposed to last for 100 years as I had planned?
Good thing my partner doesn't know what silly questions I ask here
And good thing I'm anonymous so he doesn't have to be embarrassed!
One thing I wonder about Pius, and probably several others too. How come you don't ask your partner if there's something you're wondering about? I mean, my wife literally bombards me with questions so I don't have a chance to build up anything that I haven't first thought out a good motivation for! And naturally, this exchange of ideas between us is quite rewarding, so it's not just a nuisance.
He's kind of busy at the construction site... When he comes home in the evening after 12-14 hours of nailing roofing felt, it's not the right time to ask/question too much. And besides, he thinks I have some strange questions And that I'm too inquisitive.
It's simply best for domestic peace to ask here instead!
And that I'm too inquisitive. It's simply best for domestic peace to ask here instead!
Well, go ahead and ask then.
Solid wood walls were phased out when people started putting insulation in instead. There are still log houses, but normally there tends to be some insulation underneath instead.
Solid wood walls were phased out when people started putting insulation in instead. There are still log houses, but normally there tends to be some insulation underneath instead.
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Just keep asking... (and keep answering...)
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Just keep asking...
(and keep answering...)//Mikael
There are alternatives to using outdoor gypsum under the panel.
Asfaboard.
Windy wind barrier.
Old reliable? windpaper.
That is what I know of.
Anyone have any other tips/suggestions?
Anyone know any direct disadvantages with any of the alternatives?
Advantages can also be mentioned, just don't let the thread grow uncontrollably! ;D
//ML
Asfaboard.
Windy wind barrier.
Old reliable? windpaper.
That is what I know of.
Anyone have any other tips/suggestions?
Anyone know any direct disadvantages with any of the alternatives?
Advantages can also be mentioned, just don't let the thread grow uncontrollably! ;D
//ML
If you really like wood walls a lot, you can use råspånt instead of sheet material. Then there are "hard" insulation boards. I believe Västkustskivan is one of those.
Pros/cons?
Gypsum: does not burn.
Asfaboard: easier to handle.
Papp: cheap and quick to set up. More fragile than other options.
There is another advantage with plasterboard (and other sheet materials like asfaboard?) Stability.
Whatever one might think about plasterboard and durability, it is a rigid material that prevents the studs in the wall from "settling."
If instead, you use wind barrier or fabric, etc., you have to rely on the inner wall panels to maintain stability.
Whatever one might think about plasterboard and durability, it is a rigid material that prevents the studs in the wall from "settling."
If instead, you use wind barrier or fabric, etc., you have to rely on the inner wall panels to maintain stability.
I don't know if this will be the dumbest explanation...
But you first build a frame out of wood, kind of like a skeleton that you then cover with plasterboard to prevent wind and water from getting into the insulation.
I don't know if you mean he's just putting up plasterboard and then siding, or he definitely doesn't do that because that house wouldn't be a house, just a pile of building materials on the ground. I think most assumed you knew that, but I'm not so sure...
The plasterboard has no load-bearing capability other than to provide lateral stability as someone already mentioned.
But you first build a frame out of wood, kind of like a skeleton that you then cover with plasterboard to prevent wind and water from getting into the insulation.
I don't know if you mean he's just putting up plasterboard and then siding, or he definitely doesn't do that because that house wouldn't be a house, just a pile of building materials on the ground. I think most assumed you knew that, but I'm not so sure...
The plasterboard has no load-bearing capability other than to provide lateral stability as someone already mentioned.
Pius said:Hm, when did they stop putting wood in the walls..? When they stopped using logs or what?
Strange, I think. How is this house supposed to last 100 years like I've imagined?
Lucky my partner doesn't know what dumb questions I'm asking here
And lucky that I'm anonymous so he doesn't have to be embarrassed!
You need to fix the stability in another way, such as with braces or nail plates on the diagonal. That will also make it stable.
If Pius wants a "heavy, heat-retaining frame," she'll probably have to build herself a stone house. Logs are certainly heavy, but they don't store heat to any great extent.
I know a house that would fit Pius's definition of a wood house. It is an old gunpowder house built entirely of wood. There isn’t a nail in the whole house; it’s assembled with wooden dowels.
I think Pius is overemphasizing the meaning of the word "wood house" quite a bit. It doesn't have to mean that the house consists solely of wood. There are other similar constructions in Swedish. A plastic boat isn't made solely of plastic, a leather sofa isn't made solely of leather! Or houses?