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I am in the middle of building a new house (1.5 floors) and will be going through the interior walls in the bedrooms, bathroom, and living room with the carpenter.
I am currently looking for good tips and advice that are good to consider at this stage. So far, we have thought about the following:
- We will probably not use OSB panels due to the cost versus need (as far as I know)
- Shower niche has 60x30cm at about 110-120cm height in the shower
- Slot in the wall for routing TV and network cables where they are needed
- Reinforcement of the drywall where a heavy TV will be hung
Is there anything else that might be good to consider? High and low. Something you have realized in hindsight that you wish you had done at this stage or something you are very glad you thought of? Something that is generally good to consider?
Edit: I'm a bit unsure about the placement of the thread. Grateful if a mod moves it if it is misplaced.
I am currently looking for good tips and advice that are good to consider at this stage. So far, we have thought about the following:
- We will probably not use OSB panels due to the cost versus need (as far as I know)
- Shower niche has 60x30cm at about 110-120cm height in the shower
- Slot in the wall for routing TV and network cables where they are needed
- Reinforcement of the drywall where a heavy TV will be hung
Is there anything else that might be good to consider? High and low. Something you have realized in hindsight that you wish you had done at this stage or something you are very glad you thought of? Something that is generally good to consider?
Edit: I'm a bit unsure about the placement of the thread. Grateful if a mod moves it if it is misplaced.
What does that mean?H Humsipums said:
OSB board is good for that.H Humsipums said:
If you don't follow the Säker vatten wall requirements around the bathroom, there might be problems with the insurance company in case of a water damage.
In bathrooms, it should be 15 mm K-plywood.H Humsipums said:I am in the middle of a new house construction (1.5 floors) and will go through interior walls in bedroom, bathroom, and living room with the carpenter.
I am currently seeking good tips and advice that are good to consider at this stage. Currently, we have thought about the following:
- We probably won't use OSB boards due to cost versus need (as far as I know)
- Shower is 60x30cm at approximately 110-120cm height in the shower
- Slot in the wall for routing TV and data cables where they need to be
- Reinforcement of drywall where a heavy TV will hang
Is there anything else that might be good to think about? High and low. Something that you yourself thought about afterward that you wish you had done at this stage or something you are very happy you thought of? Something that generally is good to consider?
Edit: a bit unsure about thread placement. Grateful if a mod can move it if it's misplaced.
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What does this mean?H Humsipums said:
What I'm guessing is related to conduit and what I wished for is more conduits to be drawn...
That I put OSB on ALL walls on both sides. Both for ease of screwing things into them but also for soundproofing. I hope you put insulation in the walls... And if you want it extra quiet somewhere, build a really soundproof wall.H Humsipums said:
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Where in safe water does it state that 15 mm plywood throughout the bathroom is a requirement? What the rules say regarding this is about mountings:Rejäl said:
"Mounting of products may require wall reinforcement. Screw mountings should be made in concrete or another solid construction, wooden studs, wooden noggings, or in construction that is tested and approved for mounting, for example, a panel construction."
If you read about Säker Vatten's example of a wet room wall, it states:
"The wet room wall is an alternative construction method that meets the requirements according to the industry rules Säker Vatteninstallation. The wall, which is a panel construction, meets the requirements for screw mountings in wet zone 1 according to 3.4.1 in the industry rules 2016:1."
It is therefore just as permissible to place a nogging or stud where you intend to screw something onto the wall.
Then, for example, BKR requires wall stability if it is to be covered with tiles, but double gypsum at cc60 is sufficient according to their rules.
First of all, I didn't write that the entire thing has to be clad!useless said:
Where in "Säker Vatten" does it say that 15 mm plywood throughout the entire bathroom is a requirement? What the regulations say is about fastenings:
"Fastening of products may require wall reinforcement.
Screw fastenings should be made in concrete or other solid
construction, wooden studs, blocking, or in a construction that
is tested and approved for fastening, such as a panel
construction."
If you read about Säker Vatten's example for wet room walls, it states:
"The wet room wall is an alternative construction method that meets the requirements according to industry regulations for Säker Vatteninstallation. The wall, which is a panel construction, meets the requirements for screw fastenings in wet zone 1 according to 3.4.1 in the industry regulations 2016:1."
It is just as permissible to place blocking or a stud where you intend to screw something into the wall.
Then, for example, BKR requires the wall to be stable if it is to be tiled, but double gypsum at cc60 is sufficient according to their rules.
But "Säker Vatten" is not a law! You can ignore it if you feel like it.
May I ask what you work with?useless said:
Where in Säker Vatten does it state that 15 mm plywood throughout the entire bathroom is a requirement? The rules regarding this concern fastenings:
"Fastening of products may require reinforcement of the wall. Screw fastenings must be done in concrete or another solid structure, wood studs, noggings or in construction that is tested and approved for fastening, such as a panel construction."
If you read about Säker Vatten's example of a wet room wall, it says:
"The wet room wall is an alternative construction method that meets the requirements according to industry rules Säker Vatteninstallation. The wall, which is a panel construction, meets the requirements for screw fastenings in wet zone 1 according to 3.4.1 in the 2016:1 industry rules."
So it is just as permissible to place a noggin or stud where you intend to screw something onto the wall.
Then, for example, BKR sets requirements on the wall's stability if it is to be clad with tiles, but double gypsum at cc60 is sufficient according to their rules.
But you're not ignoring Säker Vatten if you don't install plywood in the bathroom. Sure, I agree that having plywood throughout the room is really good, and considering the additional cost, there's not much to think about.
1. Rethink this reinforcing board. OSB or suitable particle board. I laugh every time I need to screw something up. The money the OSB cost has been forgotten for 100 years....H Humsipums said:I am currently seeking good tips and advice that are useful to keep in mind at this time. Currently, we have considered the following:
- We will probably not use OSB boards due to cost versus need (as far as I know)
- Shower area has 60x30cm at approximately 110-120cm height in the shower
- Slot in the wall for running TV and internet cables where they need to be.
- Reinforcement of drywall where a heavy TV will hang
Is there anything else that might be good to consider? High and low. Is there something you have thought about afterward that you wish you had done at this stage or something you are very glad you thought about? Something generally good to think about?
Edit: a bit unsure about the thread placement. Grateful if a mod moves it if it's misplaced.
2. Run all the pipes you haven't already, for networking, for cameras, prepare for wired alarm, motion detectors for automatic on/off for lights, etc.
3.