The recess fell down – poorly constructed?

[missk79]

Hello!
We've lived in our house for about nine years. So it's clear that not everything is "new" anymore. But one day when I went in through the front door, the wooden door frame suddenly fell on me. Luckily, I still had my bike helmet on my head. However, the board hit my hand, and I got a bruise there.

The frame was glued, and I don't know how long you can expect the glue to hold, but it's quite disturbing that it can come loose so that the board falls down...

Then we started looking at the actual construction and saw that the horizontal frame board is wedged between the vertical boards. If it had been placed on top of the vertical ones instead, it would have been held in place and couldn't have fallen down. Wouldn't that have been a better construction? Does anyone know if there are building standards for this kind of thing? The frame boards came pre-cut from the house company, so it wasn't the carpenters' fault.

I'm discussing this with the house company and they sent a construction drawing showing they've done it right, but I argue that in that case, the drawing is wrong.

Does anyone know if there is a building standard for this? For someone like me who isn't in the industry but works at a desk, it's clear that the boards should be mounted in a way that they don't risk falling on someone's head when entering through the front door. So the horizontal on top of the vertical.

Sure, we could screw the board in ourselves so that it stays securely... but now it's become a matter of principle for me... so what do you say, what's the best way to mount a frame?

 

[Hep]

Glue or screws work fine. However, I might not put blobs of glue as they did.

If you choose the simplest option - i.e., to screw it on and then perhaps fill and paint the screw heads, it takes a looooooot less time than dealing with a claim for a nine-year-old piece of MDF that has fallen off. If you somehow "win" against the housing company, the gain is just a couple of hours of work for a clumsy desk jockey. Is it worth it?

 

[missk79]

No, that's the question, isn't it... But since I haven't been treated so nicely by the company, I want to find out if I'm right. Surely there are some wise carpenters here!

 

[13th Marine]

Well, you do have a 10-year warranty on the work, but it's probably much easier to just glue it back up yourself.

 

[AG A]

No, there is no building standard concerning such things. Such details are also not shown in any construction drawings. No other drawings or forms either. In this case, it just happens to be a carpenter who forgot to nail or was careless with the gluing. Seeking any form of compensation for it will cost significantly more than it's worth. Unfortunately, it's probably best to just bring out the hammer or glue bottle and fix it yourself. Alternatively, ask a friend for help.

 

[tergo]

would not have happened if the smygbräderna were placed in the correct order

 

[jonaserik]

would not have happened if the covert boards were placed in the right order

The right railing should, in order not to fall down, lie on the side tops of the extent. Now nothing to argue about, apply a lot of wood glue and two props that press along the sides and let it sit for a week so it doesn't fall down again.

 

[AG A]

wouldn't have happened if the sneaky boards were placed in the right order

That's exactly what TS had concluded and was wondering about.

 

[cpalm]

No, there is no building standard for such things.

Hus AMA does indeed have a chapter on doors and frames. However, I have no idea what is written there.

 

[jonaserik]

There is probably nothing specific about it, just that it generally should adhere to the building code standards for windows and doors.

 

[cpalm]

There's probably nothing about it, just that it generally should be to the extent according to building code for windows and doors.

Do you mean that they dedicate a whole chapter to saying that the doors and reveals should be according to the building code?
My experience is that AMA usually contains quite detailed instructions.

 

[jonaserik]

You mean they dedicate an entire chapter to saying that doors and angles must comply with building regulations? In my experience, AMA usually contains quite detailed instructions.

I've never written anything like that, so that comment is not relevant. I merely implied that when constructing a house, all details should be included, regardless of whether it is written in some papers or not.

 

[Kardan79]

Now, I'm not a builder, but isn't it ridiculously stupid to mount the railing like that? It should be a no-brainer to support it from underneath, I think.

 

[jonaserik]

Now I'm not a builder, but isn't it just plain stupid to mount the handrail like that? Shouldn't it be a no-brainer to support it from below, I think.

no-brainer why, it just needs to be secured and not fall down, maybe too little glue, more of that kind and it would have stayed in place

 

[useless]

There's probably nothing specific about it, just that there should generally be a scope according to building code for windows and doors

AMA is the building code. Doesn't it become strange if the building code just refers to the building code?