Perhaps a silly question in this forum.
Our plot consists of 1200 square meters of really large pines. At least 100 of them with a diameter of about 70 cm. The height is certainly at least 20 meters. All the trees are straight and relatively knot-free. I've received tips that one can sell the trees since they are so nice, and of course, I'm a bit interested...
What can one get for the lot? I've heard one can get a couple of thousand for each tree, is that too much? Who should one turn to?
What is more profitable, if one arranges the felling and transport oneself or if one leaves it to the buyer?
Best regards,
Kristofer
Our plot consists of 1200 square meters of really large pines. At least 100 of them with a diameter of about 70 cm. The height is certainly at least 20 meters. All the trees are straight and relatively knot-free. I've received tips that one can sell the trees since they are so nice, and of course, I'm a bit interested...
What can one get for the lot? I've heard one can get a couple of thousand for each tree, is that too much? Who should one turn to?
What is more profitable, if one arranges the felling and transport oneself or if one leaves it to the buyer?
Best regards,
Kristofer
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Selling the trees "on the stump" is the easiest in my opinion when it comes to so many trees.
Selling the trees "on the stump" is the easiest in my opinion when it comes to so many trees.
It depends on where you live and the cost of cutting down and transporting the trees 
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We couldn't use any machines, so we did everything ourselves (cut down, trimmed, and cut to the right lengths, dragged everything up to the road for the truck). A whole lot of work! Then we got a few thousand for a full truckload. That was the smallest volume they wanted to consider, and we actually had trouble finding buyers for such a small volume
Therefore, it had been drying a few weeks too long, so it could only be used as pulpwood instead of saw timber, we were told, and we received the price accordingly.
We were quite disappointed that we got so little for so much work. But if you're neighbors with a buddy with machines who cuts down secretly on a Saturday-Sunday, the calculation will probably be better ;D
But make sure to have a buyer ready before you do anything
.We couldn't use any machines, so we did everything ourselves (cut down, trimmed, and cut to the right lengths, dragged everything up to the road for the truck). A whole lot of work! Then we got a few thousand for a full truckload. That was the smallest volume they wanted to consider, and we actually had trouble finding buyers for such a small volume
Therefore, it had been drying a few weeks too long, so it could only be used as pulpwood instead of saw timber, we were told, and we received the price accordingly.
We were quite disappointed that we got so little for so much work. But if you're neighbors with a buddy with machines who cuts down secretly on a Saturday-Sunday, the calculation will probably be better ;D
But make sure to have a buyer ready before you do anything
My tip is to talk to the forest owners' association in your area, or alternatively with a nearby sawmill and bring in someone who knows their stuff. Feel free to talk to several companies so you can soon see if anyone is trying to scam you.
When you mention pines with a 70cm diameter, I picture old pines that are knot-free at the bottom but with a substantial crown with thick branches at the top.
With such large trees, machines (forest machinery) are essentially a requirement to transport the timber. However, logging, i.e., felling/limbing, can probably be done manually. For the following reason:
1. There aren't many modern harvesters that can handle 70cm trees, meaning the felling must be done by hand...
2. The harvester also usually has big problems with thick branches...meaning the limbing must be done by hand as well...
However, the harvester is good at handling heavy trees
Something further to consider.
1. Most sawmills have a maximum limit of 60cm. Timber exceeding this is "rejected," and you won't get more payment than for rot-damaged timber. Check what applies for oversized timber in your area! It might be possible to sell as veneer logs or poles?
2. Old trees that have grown near buildings often contain nails up to "boyhood height" and other junk making them less interesting for the sawmill.
3. Saw timber, particularly pine, is perishable and doesn't withstand long storage during summertime. Check the applicable dates in your area.
4. The price is completely determined by the quality of the timber.
5. In such a small area, the logging becomes quite expensive per m3 because there are always relocation costs for the machines.
6. Try to hire a machine that is nearby, as it will lower the cost.
When you mention pines with a 70cm diameter, I picture old pines that are knot-free at the bottom but with a substantial crown with thick branches at the top.
With such large trees, machines (forest machinery) are essentially a requirement to transport the timber. However, logging, i.e., felling/limbing, can probably be done manually. For the following reason:
1. There aren't many modern harvesters that can handle 70cm trees, meaning the felling must be done by hand...
2. The harvester also usually has big problems with thick branches...meaning the limbing must be done by hand as well...
However, the harvester is good at handling heavy trees
Something further to consider.
1. Most sawmills have a maximum limit of 60cm. Timber exceeding this is "rejected," and you won't get more payment than for rot-damaged timber. Check what applies for oversized timber in your area! It might be possible to sell as veneer logs or poles?
2. Old trees that have grown near buildings often contain nails up to "boyhood height" and other junk making them less interesting for the sawmill.
3. Saw timber, particularly pine, is perishable and doesn't withstand long storage during summertime. Check the applicable dates in your area.
4. The price is completely determined by the quality of the timber.
5. In such a small area, the logging becomes quite expensive per m3 because there are always relocation costs for the machines.
6. Try to hire a machine that is nearby, as it will lower the cost.
Thanks for all the answers!
Once again, check which dates apply.
Harvest now and deliver later in winter/spring as "winter harvested." Check which dates apply for winter harvested timber in your area.
It might also be worth checking the price list. Even if the sawmills are overstocked with pine, it’s not certain that this has impacted the price list.
Many sawmills purchase timber well in advance and use the living forest as a warehouse. It’s not uncommon for forests to stand for several years after being sold before they are harvested... This long-term planning and competition with other sawmills mean that prices for timber are rarely or never changed just because the finished goods inventory is overfilled. However, the desire to buy may decrease....Small batches are usually not a problem.
Now that we are approaching New Year, it often becomes urgent to reduce inventory to tidy up the numbers before the fiscal year ends. Price dumping on finished goods by the order of some economist is not entirely uncommon in the industry
In January, inventories might be smaller...
Harvest now and deliver later in winter/spring as "winter harvested." Check which dates apply for winter harvested timber in your area.
It might also be worth checking the price list. Even if the sawmills are overstocked with pine, it’s not certain that this has impacted the price list.
Many sawmills purchase timber well in advance and use the living forest as a warehouse. It’s not uncommon for forests to stand for several years after being sold before they are harvested... This long-term planning and competition with other sawmills mean that prices for timber are rarely or never changed just because the finished goods inventory is overfilled. However, the desire to buy may decrease....Small batches are usually not a problem.
Now that we are approaching New Year, it often becomes urgent to reduce inventory to tidy up the numbers before the fiscal year ends. Price dumping on finished goods by the order of some economist is not entirely uncommon in the industry
In January, inventories might be smaller...
Hey, I saw someone claim that it's difficult for sawmills to process large logs.
I know this sawmill, which is privately owned and manages its own purchases, gladly buys thicker pine root logs.
Purchase area Småland-Värmland.
http://www.ansgariussvenssonab.se/swe_main.asp?id=8
I know this sawmill, which is privately owned and manages its own purchases, gladly buys thicker pine root logs.
Purchase area Småland-Värmland.
http://www.ansgariussvenssonab.se/swe_main.asp?id=8