We need to install some new doors in the basement, and in one place, we want a glass door. Preferably, we want the following:
Diplomat ST12
The second option is Diplomat ST10
In our case, it's an M8x20 door that's needed, but we will still have to trim about 15 mm at the top and bottom since the inner dimensions of the existing frame are 1918x732 mm. As I understand, you want a 7 mm clearance.
The manufacturer says you can trim up to 15 mm at each end of these doors, but they do not recommend it. They also say that the fewer glass panes, the lighter and more stable the door.
We will leave the cutting to a carpentry shop.
What are your experiences with this? Should we dare to choose the door with more windows, or should we go with ST10?
If it is possible to trim the door by 15mm, a carpentry shop with a panel saw can easily cut off 15mm without anything breaking. So you can safely choose the door you want.
If the door can be trimmed by 15mm, a carpentry shop with a panel saw can easily take off 15mm without anything breaking. So you can safely choose the door you want
Manufacturers say it is possible to trim a maximum of 15mm at the top and bottom, but do not recommend it as the door will not be as stable. They also say that the less glass, the more stable.
A carpenter can thus trim 15mm without issue, but the question remains whether a door with 12 panes will still withstand normal use?
Have you considered buying a new frame and possibly increasing the hole measurement a bit? Since it's standard 8x20M, it might actually be cheaper than bringing it to a carpentry shop.
These are cellars, so the frames are embedded and starting to chip away at these vaults in 6 places seems excessive since we ourselves have no issues with the height.
On the entrance level, it was easier to saw the holes, so we went in that direction.
As far as I understand, the measurements are as follows:
8x19 Door leaf: 725x1840
8x20 Door leaf: 725x1940
In my case, the inner measurement is 1918x732 mm. If a 3.5 mm margin is sufficient (which the standard width seems to suggest), it becomes 1911x725 mm.
8x19 is then 71 mm too small, i.e., we get a gap of a total of 3.5+3.5 = about 7 mm at the top and bottom while it is 7 on the sides.
8x20 is 29 mm too tall, so we would need to cut off at least 15 mm at the top and bottom.
As far as I can tell, neither ST10 nor ST12 is available in 8x19, otherwise, I agree it would have been a more convenient solution.
How big is the door opening, i.e. the opening where the old frame is located?
It seems doubtful to fit a new door in an old frame, nothing will match up, right? The hinges are at the wrong height and are the wrong type, the lock is at the wrong height and doesn't fit with the strike plate in the old frame, etc.
8x20 has a frame outer dimension of 785x1985. It's fine in terms of width, but in height, it's missing 30 mm. I have only measured down to the parquet floor, which is ventilated, so it may actually be 30 mm down to the foundation! Otherwise, I might need to chisel out the missing cm; that shouldn't be too difficult, right? I have a hammer drill that can hammer without rotating.
It's very easy to cut the hole you need in the concrete wall, and the result will be better. The only downside is that it creates an incredible amount of dust, but it's worth it, in my opinion (I've cut for a door frame in my basement so far and wouldn't hesitate to do it again if more doors are replaced)
Thank you, I'll go with standard measurements so we can carve out a bit instead.
By the way, what do you think about the door choice? We like the open feeling that SP12 provides but it might be more delicate? For example, if someone were to accidentally bump into it with their foot? SP10 is more common as I understand it.
Use the angle grinder (one can stand next to it with the vacuum cleaner ) and you'll get a straight and fine cut. If you’re careful, there’s no need for touch-ups, just cover with molding and enjoy the result!
Install the door you want! If someone unexpectedly breaks a glass, there are glaziers!!
I agree with the recent comments. It's just not perfect to saw apart new doors. A mistake from the start, quite simply. Replace with a new frame and it will be perfect. More work but better results.
Vi vill skicka notiser för ämnen du bevakar och händelser som berör dig.
(I've cut for a door frame in my basement so far and wouldn't hesitate to do it again if more doors are replaced)