Remove plaster ceiling rose without breaking it

[perra4]

I have removed the tension fabric from the ceiling to install drywall instead. I would like to reuse the beautiful plaster stucco from 1926. How is a plaster stucco attached to the wooden ceiling, and most importantly, how do I remove it from the ceiling without it breaking? Once it's removed, what is the best way to attach it to the drywall?

 

[KnockOnWood]

I have a hard time imagining that it can work. Gypsum is very fragile. Probably held up with some nails into the ceiling boards.

But there are imitations of ceiling rosettes in polystyrene to buy

We have discussed this before, see
http://www.byggahus.se/forum/byggmaterial-byggteknik/215208-valvda-takvinklar.html

There is a link that might be useful:
http://www.carma.se/rwdx/files/ORAC-...R-EN-DE-ES.pdf

 

[Östlund]

It is probably held with bruk and maybe some nails.

I would try to saw it off. Like with a long hacksaw, saw along the ceiling.

Don't forget to kortla in the ceiling where it will be placed, then you can screw it in securely.
You can then fill the holes with spackling.

Otherwise, you might be able to glue it with something like pl400. Use a strip or something similar and put it under tension for a few hours until the glue has dried.

 

[KnockOnWood]

Östlund, have you tried this yourself?

Sounds a bit like theory to me.

 

[Flöjten5]

But it might be worth trying? Doesn't cost anything

 

[Nyfniken]

But it could be worth a try? Doesn't cost anything

A ceiling rose and a new parquet floor at most...

 

[magnusmo]

I had rosettes that were fixed with nails and mortar. Removed them with a putty knife. Fortunately, the nails came off as well. There were still ugly holes in the rosettes, so I installed foam rosettes.

 

[Östlund]

No. But I know how plasterers work. I've been involved in renovating old houses.

When they put up plasterwork on the ceiling, they started by making notches on the backside, that is, the smooth side that should sit against the ceiling or wall.
Then, as I recall, they applied a layer of some kind of plaster mortar, and then they screwed it in place.

 

[Östlund]

A ceiling rose and a new parquet floor at most...

If you're worried, you can always put out a rug underneath

 

[KnockOnWood]

Hope we find out how Perra4 succeeds with the ceiling rose.

Perra, you'll report back, right? Preferably with pictures, of course!

 

[fiskbuggaren]

Or you do like the pros: knock it down and then replace it with a terribly ugly one made of styrofoam. Also, take the opportunity to put fingerprints on it (!) so that you really can't miss how plastic it looks.

 

[AskeHolst]

If the ceiling rose breaks, there are also new ones in plaster available to buy. We bought 4 from stuckatur.com, which also has a store in Helsingborg, very nice and not unreasonably expensive.

 

[Nyfniken]

Or you can do like the pros: knock it down and replace it with a terribly ugly one made of styrofoam. Also, make sure to put fingerprints on it (!) so that you really can't miss how plasticky it looks.

Isn't it supposed to be painted?

 

[KnockOnWood]

Or you can do as the pros: knock it down and then replace it with an incredibly ugly one made of styrofoam. Also, make sure to leave fingerprints on it (!) so that you really can't miss how plastic it looks.

The idea is probably to paint it at the same time as the ceiling gypsum.

Are you really writing about pros?

Edit: Second to the ball as usual.

 

[fiskbuggaren]

It should be painted, right?

It won't help against indentations in the frigolit.