Reasonable solution for old hole for ceiling lamp?

[Nilerts]

Hi,

I'm going to install a track for spotlights but I'm having issues with previous outlets/holes for lamps where the track is supposed to go.

My solution is as follows:

1. Place the existing wires in a junction box and further insulate with electrical tape.

2. Fill the hole with foam sealant.

3. Smooth it out with spackle.

4. Paint with textured paint to match the rest of the ceiling pattern.

I'm unsure if this is a reasonable solution or if there's some flaw I'm not considering?

Thanks!

 

[Nilerts]

Mainly the electricity I'm wondering if it's an okay solution with. A bit unclear.

 

[etompau]

Yes, it's unclear. What kind of hole are you talking about? Is it a junction box or just a hole in the wall?
Take a picture and maybe we can give a bit more advice.

 

[Nilerts]

Yes, it's unclear. What kind of hole are you talking about? Is it a junction box or just a hole in the wall?
Take a picture and maybe we can give some more advice.

Attempt at clarification:

It is a recessed hole in the ceiling about 10x10CM for a ceiling lamp. In the hole, there are wires for connecting the lamp. I have now taken the ends of these wires and placed them in a box and insulated them with electrical tape since they are "active." Mainly the electricity is what makes me unsure if it's irresponsible or impractical to now cover it with foam and putty. The desired result is for the hole not to be visible.

 

[etompau]

Can't you use a doslock with an outlet for a cable?
Fogskum doesn't sound correct to my ears.

 

[Mikael_L]

take a picture and upload here.

 

[Nilerts]

Can't you use an outlet cover with an exit for the cable?
Foam does not sound correct to my ears.
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That was my first thought, but the hole needs to be level with the rest of the ceiling since a spotlight track will go over it. Foam isn't conductive, is it? The foam is to fill the hole and also make it easier in case you want to use the hole in the future. I think it might be easier to carve out than putty.

 

[Mikael_L]

You must not foam around FK or EK conductors.

If you switch to a cable (like EKK, for example), it's at least not totally wrong, but mostly "that's not how it's done!", but it might be a possible solution that can actually be correct, though unusual.

 

[Nilerts]

You must not use foam around FK or EK conductors.

If you switch to a cable (like EKK, for instance) then it's not completely wrong, just mostly "that's not how it's done!", but it's a possible solution that can be correct, though uncommon.

Unsure about the current cable type. Why is it prohibited to use foam? Fire hazard?

 

[Mikael_L]

You lack necessary isolation. A cable has an additional insulation layer.

 

[etompau]

You must differentiate between a cable and a ledare. A cable has an outer part that provides an additional insulating layer. A ledare has only one insulating layer.

 

[Nilerts]

You lack necessary insulation. A cable has an additional layer of insulation.

What prevents you from using foam sealant? How do I know what type of cable it is?

 

[Mikael_L]

take a picture and upload it here.

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What is it that makes foam filling not allowed?

It's wrong, sort of illegal.
If your provider finds out, they should actually cut off your electricity. (In theory, that's how it is, but not in practice)

 

[Nilerts]

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It is wrong, kind of illegal.
If your supplier finds out, they should really cut off your power. (In theory, that's how it is, though not in practice)

 

[etompau]

Do not fill that hole with foam sealant. Find another solution by moving your skena and fitting a proper outlet cover.