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Hi,
I am going to mount two bathroom cabinets and am wondering what type of fasteners to use. The cabinets will have support legs since the wall consists of tiles + single plasterboard. I will not be able to secure all screws into studs, so I need some type of wall anchor or similar.
Anyone on the forum have some good tips??
//Massaman
I am going to mount two bathroom cabinets and am wondering what type of fasteners to use. The cabinets will have support legs since the wall consists of tiles + single plasterboard. I will not be able to secure all screws into studs, so I need some type of wall anchor or similar.
Anyone on the forum have some good tips??
//Massaman
I was thinking of using molly initially but was advised against it at the plumbing store. However, they couldn't give any concrete alternative, just that there were better anchors. I have scoured the market but haven't found anything resembling what they talked about. Have you used molly in a similar situation yourself?
Oh yes, many times. And what did they say was the reason not to use molly?
There are other plugs that work well too, where the screw goes through and pulls the plug together in a similar way to molly. But I don't think you should use regular plugs that open in a V-shape.
There are other plugs that work well too, where the screw goes through and pulls the plug together in a similar way to molly. But I don't think you should use regular plugs that open in a V-shape.
jon_h, why do you think one should not use regular plastic plugs?
If you take a closer look at the panel fixing, commonly known as "molly," you'll see that there are two small tabs on the side of the plug that faces outward. These tabs' task is to grip the panel so that the plug doesn't turn when tightened. This type of panel fixing should be mounted in the panel material, not on the cladding or in what is to be hung.
If you take a closer look at the panel fixing, commonly known as "molly," you'll see that there are two small tabs on the side of the plug that faces outward. These tabs' task is to grip the panel so that the plug doesn't turn when tightened. This type of panel fixing should be mounted in the panel material, not on the cladding or in what is to be hung.
I haven't written anywhere that I don't think plastic plugs should be used. However, I don't think one should use the simplest kind, the one that opens in a V-shape, but rather one where the screw goes through the far end of the plug and pulls the plug together on the backside of the board material. Precisely because it holds significantly better.
Regarding the metal expander, I am fully aware of its design, and I also know the purpose of the metal tabs, thank you. They exist so that the plug can be mounted without the help of a "molly tool," preventing the plug itself from spinning when tightening the screw. If you use such a tool to expand the plug before tightening the screw, it works perfectly to install such a plug on a tiled wall.
Regarding the metal expander, I am fully aware of its design, and I also know the purpose of the metal tabs, thank you. They exist so that the plug can be mounted without the help of a "molly tool," preventing the plug itself from spinning when tightening the screw. If you use such a tool to expand the plug before tightening the screw, it works perfectly to install such a plug on a tiled wall.
You are right, you didn't write plastic plug, but regular plug, which for us normal mortals, is precisely plastic plug!! It is only plastic plugs and nail plugs (also made of plastic) that open like a "v", except for a special plug made of steel (TLF), for lightweight concrete.
I wrote "regular anchors that open in a V-shape," and by that, I mean nylon anchors for concrete or similar. I could have written "plastic anchors that open in a V-shape" instead, and I would still not have meant that all plastic anchors were bad in this context. Most plastic anchors do not open in a V-shape, and I think they are perfectly fine to use, as long as they are long enough that the expansion occurs behind the sheet material and not in it.Ardexsmitten said:
Am I clear enough now?
Take it easy now! Think about your heart!
The whole idea of a forum is to "bounce" questions and answers, right?
And, if we return to the actual question, universal plugs (plastic plugs, nylon plugs...) work very well. The cabinet will stand on legs, so there won't be much lateral force, even though it is lateral forces that the universal plug is good at. Tensile forces hardly need to be mentioned for this type of mounting.
And, if we return to the actual question, universal plugs (plastic plugs, nylon plugs...) work very well. The cabinet will stand on legs, so there won't be much lateral force, even though it is lateral forces that the universal plug is good at. Tensile forces hardly need to be mentioned for this type of mounting.
Did you interpret my previous post as if I were upset? I wasn't at all, so if it sounded that way, it wasn't my intention.Ardexsmitten said:
Universal plugs work perfectly well. They don't open up like a V (like nylon plugs for concrete do), but tie together on the backside of the boards.Ardexsmitten said:And, if we return to the question itself, it's working very well with universal plugs (plastic plugs, nylon plugs...). The cabinet will be on legs, so there won't be any major horizontal forces, even if it's mainly horizontal forces that the universal plugs are good at. Tensile forces hardly need to be mentioned in this type of installation.
When I answered the question initially, he hadn't mentioned that the cabinet had legs. If it had been without legs and the cabinet had been of the deeper type, there might have been a lot of tensile forces on the plugs. But with the legs, almost any type of plug would work.
It's cool! See you in another thread! It's always fun with discussions and different ways of looking at things. Often there are multiple solutions to a problem!
I just hope that Massaman dares to screw that cabinet now!
I just hope that Massaman dares to screw that cabinet now!