Plastered walls or aerated concrete? What plugs + screws

[tuffebulle]

Hello everyone! I've recently moved into a new apartment and in the previous one, I only encountered drywall and hard raw concrete.

In the new place, the walls are very porous, so I'm also confused about what type they are and what kind of plugs and screws I should use. I've tried with red universal ones, but they don't quite hold. I'm planning to hang curtain rails, a TV bracket, anchor some cabinets, etc., so it's important to have the right supplies for these porous walls!

I can drill into the walls with a regular wood drill, so I guess it might be plaster??
I've attached pictures of the dust and the hole I've made.

Best regards!

 

[jonaserik]

Red plug in that wall no, then you have drilled too fast, so the hole has become too large. In such walls, it may be possible to drive in a Phillips screwdriver to create a hole (it will be driven in far), then it can work with a red plug and two pieces in the same hole and twice as long screw. To insert the first plug, it is driven in to the wall and then the screw is slightly inserted and tapped to the bottom, remove the screw and insert the next plug.

 

[tuffebulle]

Red plugs in that wall no, then you've drilled too fast, so the hole has become too large. In such walls, it is possible to drive in a Phillips screwdriver to make a hole (it will require driving in far), Then it might work with a red plug and two in the same hole and double-length screws. To get the first plug in, it is knocked in to the wall and then the screw is set in lightly and tapped in to the bottom, remove the screw and insert the next plug.

Okay, but which plug is recommended for this type of wall?
Best regards

 

[Plupp 405730]

Okay, but which plug is recommended for this kind of wall?
Regards

I have had good experience with these, available in more brands, I think Bauhaus has them..
Be careful when drilling, preferably without hammer if you're using a hammer drill…

https://www.proffsmagasinet.se/mask...lattbetongplugg-12x60-mm-nylon-4-pack-3066614

 

[jonaserik]

Okey, but which plug is recommended for this type of wall?
Best regards

Depends entirely on what you’re going to hang up.
Curtain rods 2 red in sequence + long screws like 2 plugs
TV mount requires a bit more strength to hold, and if it’s one that can swing to another angle, there will be additional
stress on the mounting. Difficult to say what. Just straight on the wall, you can use smaller plug diameters but should go in at least 7-8 cm into the wall. Ask at the hardware store for what is available.
Anchoring a cabinet that stands on the floor can be done with red doubles and screws as long as two plugs.
As mentioned, drill without impact slowly and hold the machine steadily without wobbling, and apply slow pressure.

 

[tuffebulle]

I have good experience with these, available in more brands, I think Bauhaus has them..
Make sure to drill gently, preferably without hammer function if you're using a hammer drill…

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I'll see if I can find these! Thank you so much

 

[tuffebulle]

Depends entirely on what you are going to hang up.
Curtain rods 2 red one after another + long screws as 2 plugs
TV bracket requires a bit more power to hold, if it's one that can be tilted at another angle there will be additional
strains on the mounting. A bit tricky to say what. Just straight on the wall, it can go with smaller plug diameter but should go in at least 7-8 cm into the wall. Ask at the store what's available.
Anchoring a cabinet that stands on the floor goes with red doubles and screws as long as two plugs.
Then as said, drill without a hammer slowly and hold the machine steadily without wobbling, and slow pressure.

Okay! Then I'm clear! What kind of f***ing walls 🤣

Can't you bottom the hole for the plug with glue like Tec7 or similar, or won't it hold?

 

[tuffebulle]

I have also looked a bit at Fischer Duopower, wouldn't these handle the job?

Best regards

 

[BirgitS]

Maybe it's time to check with others in the building how the walls are constructed. It's good to know if they are plastered plank walls, brick, slag stone, or something else. If they are plank walls, you can use wood screws that are long enough to go into the planks.

 

[morr]

Agree with Birgit about asking the neighbors! When I did that, I found out that our walls here are a mix of lättbetong and brick. Also, I got a tip for really heavy things to drill the holes a bit larger and then fill with Husfix. (Or to carefully "glue" long plugs with the Husfix. Plus, I got Husfix from the neighbor )

 

[tuffebulle]

After a test to scoop out the wall a bit (it's going to be wallpapered anyway), I see that it's plastered brick, what are your experiences with this?

Have a nice evening!

 

[Plupp 405730]

After a test to scoop out the wall a bit (it's going to be wallpapered anyway), I see that it's plastered brick. What experiences do you have regarding this?

Have a nice evening!

The plugs I recommended work well in brick too...

 

[BirgitS]

For better understanding, Essve's page is probably worth reading: https://www.essve.com/sv/essve-guid...astning/Montage-i-haltegel-och-betonghalsten/
However, this does not mean that you should buy their products.

It is not certain that all walls are constructed in the same way.

 

[tuffebulle]

Perfect, just need to read up now! All the walls had the same plastered surface when I tore down the wallpaper, so it's probably the same throughout the apartment, tough! Have to search for studs now when I'm going to hang something 😅

 

[Kanelbullen123]

I have also looked at Fischer Duopower, wouldn't these handle the job?

Best regards

They are really good plugs, if you want to be sure, go for their extra-long ones.
Personally, I think these are the best plugs on the market.
Just make sure you don't have a drill tip on the screw.