Krille-72 Krille-72 said:
If you have decided on a larger doorway, strip the wall from one side so it will be easier for you and the constructor to see. You can also remove the sliding door if you feel like it. Most likely there is some form of wooden beam above the sliding door.
We have started to waffle a bit since we don't want the costs to run away.
 
I Icemania88 said:
Took some photos in the sliding door opening. I've understood that the wall is unfortunately load-bearing, the question is whether it would be safe to open up a little bit.
Now it might sound harsher than I intend, but those pictures are as helpful as if you had stood in a "regular" doorway and taken pictures of the door frame. ;)

I stand by my previous answer. I think it will be difficult to -- without removing drywall or whatever type of wall covering it is so that you can see how it is supported -- determine what kind of opening you can create. If you can take down the sliding door, you might be able to see a bit more (but most likely not enough), but based on what's there now, the short answer is no, you shouldn't risk opening up even a little bit.
 
I Icemania88 said:
We have started to hesitate a bit as we don't want the cost to escalate.
Then you have to make up your mind first!:rofl:
Or call a constructor so you can find out the cost to start with.

Since you have a sliding door there which I understood is 70 cm, the opening is already at least 140 cm if you remove the sliding door. So you don't need a huge beam if you want to increase the opening to 2 m.
 
The wall is undoubtedly load-bearing. For the sliding door, there is already a transfer of at least 140 cm. However, there is a big difference between 140 and 200 cm in terms of beam dimension requirements. Whoever is going to calculate this needs access to complete drawings. The house is more complicated than usual.
 
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J justusandersson said:
The wall is undoubtedly load-bearing. There is already a header for the sliding door of at least 140 cm. However, there is a big difference between 140 and 200 cm when it comes to beam dimension requirements. The person who will calculate this needs to have access to complete drawings. The house is more complicated than usual.
Well! If Ts strips the wall, an experienced engineer will be able to quickly determine what is needed without any drawings.

We used to work a lot with an older gentleman who unfortunately retired at 75. He would take a quick look and then tell us what was needed. For safety's sake, he would go back to his office to do some calculations and check the structural drawings (if there were any).

Then the report came. I can't remember a single time that any dimension changed from what he first said on site.
 
I can do that too, but hardly all who are available.
 
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J justusandersson said:
The wall is undoubtedly load-bearing. For the sliding door, there is already a lintel of at least 140 cm. However, there is a big difference between 140 and 200 cm in terms of beam size requirements. Whoever is going to calculate this needs access to complete drawings. The house is more complex than usual.
In other words, could one open up the wall to the full width of the sliding door and some extra measures as it is already lintelled?
New to this, so maybe a bit of odd questions.
 
I Icemania88 said:
In other words, could you open up the entire width of the wall of the sliding door and some extra measure since it is already offset? New to this so maybe a little silly questions
You can absolutely tear down the sliding door. It has no supporting function. The offset is located above the sliding door.
 
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Krille-72 Krille-72 said:
You can absolutely tear down the sliding door. It has no load-bearing function. The lintel is located above the sliding door.
Krille-72 Krille-72 said:
You can absolutely tear down the sliding door. It has no load-bearing function. The lintel is located above the sliding door.
Sounds good, then we'll get a slightly larger opening at least about 20-30 cm because then the fridge will come, and we don't want it to be "outside" the opening.
 
Krille-72 Krille-72 said:
You can absolutely remove the sliding door. It has no load-bearing function. The lintel is above the sliding door.
Question from the wife. She's wondering if it's always the case that sliding doors are lintelled when they are in load-bearing walls?

I'm going to remove the frame and open one side of the wall tonight to see what's behind the panels, etc.
 
Sliding doors are always supported to their double width. Otherwise, they wouldn't work.
 
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Now the frame is torn down. Took some pictures. It looks like almost the entire wall is supported from what can be seen from here at least. The last 90 cm by the sink, however, appears not to be supported.
 
  • Exposed door frame with wooden beams in a kitchen. Nearby are kitchen shelves with spices and cooking supplies.
  • Close-up of wooden beams with visible dismantling, showing framework structure and detachment.
  • Close-up of a partially deconstructed wall near a kitchen counter, showing exposed wooden beams with a section appearing not reinforced.
  • Close-up of a removed door frame showing exposed wood structure and a screw, highlighting an adjacent unreinforced section near a kitchen sink.
Can't be any substantial beam in the wall, it doesn't feel like it.
 
  • Tape measure showing the depth of a wall, indicating a possible small lintel fitting.
  • Tape measure showing wall thickness, suggesting minimal structural load-bearing.
It also looks like the beam doesn't rest on any support but appears to be nailed on the side—maybe that's how it usually is?
 
It looks a bit homemade. The smallest transfer beam at 140 cm, I guess, is glulam 42x180. That corresponds to approximately 45x195 C 24.
 
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