Is it possible to fill large hole in brick after wall plugs have crumbled?

[Farstatjej90]

No need to overexert yourself, you can stop screwing in long before that even. The wall doesn't move significantly, there's no point in tightening it to the extreme. It's not the screw's tension against the plug that's the weak link in such mounting.

But yes, he can also mill a slot in the brick and cast in an H-beam to which the curtain mount is then welded. This will hold even for your use of curtains!

EDIT: But to be really sure, he should probably also drill into the H-beam from the outside and attach cables to it to also take advantage of concrete foundations buried outside. That way you can tighten the cable as you please or if an overload occurs for the curtain mount during a visit, for example.

These are the two options you see? Wasn't the option with the right material good or?

 

[Norrlandet]

Why on earth should you use the wrong material? I tried doing this myself and the filler cracked. It's good that your speakers are hanging up, but there's much better material to use. Do it...

Just because you haven't succeeded with something once doesn't mean that a certain thing doesn't work.

 

[Farstatjej90]

Just because you haven't succeeded with something once doesn't mean that a certain thing doesn't work.

You will probably do much better when you take the filler next time you are in a similar situation. 👍

 

[Norrlandet]

You will surely succeed much better the next time you take the putty in a similar situation. 👍

Are you sure your scientific test didn't work? Joking aside Farstatjej, give it another try next time. Maybe you mixed the putty wrong?

 

[Farstatjej90]

Are you sure your scientific test didn't work? Just kidding Farstarjej, give it another try next time. Maybe you mixed the spackel wrong?

The only user error here is on your part, and it’s the forum and not spackel that can't be handled.👍

 

[Dilato]

Maybe you mixed the filler wrong?

Do you mix that kind of filler from a tube that TS bought?

 

[Norrlandet]

Do you mix such putty in a tube like the OP bought?

We were not talking about the OP now.

 

[Norrlandet]

The only user error here is yours and it's the forum, not spackel, that cannot be handled.👍

Yes, you probably did everything right but it still didn't work. Totally reasonable 🙃

 

[Harald Blåtumme]

Agree with Farstatjejen and others, regular lightweight filler (typically gypsum-based) is not a good choice for this, as it is meant to be used for filling before wallpapering/painting. I would never choose this.

Anchor compound was suggested, some type of epoxy might also work well if the goal is to secure fairly heavy items in porous material. As always, if you're going to use anchor compound/epoxy, it's crucial to thoroughly blow out all drill dust/debris from the hole; otherwise, it won't work.

It's also worth considering that a regular hammer drill tends to excessively damage drill holes. A better choice is a rotary hammer with low impact energy so that the drill holes don't veer off or smear, maintaining the intended dimension.

Don't be afraid to go up a size in plug/drill holes to get a good fit, ideally using really good plugs like those from Fischer, which are intended for the material in your wall.

 

[Dilato]

We weren't talking about ts now.

Ok, so where in the thread is any other spackel mentioned besides TS spackel, how can you be so sure that it will hold if you've used a different spackel (that is mixed)?

 

[Claes Sörmland]

Note, however, that the OP has not used the old classic sand compound but lightweight compound. It is a little better at filling holes than the classic compound. I guess it will work.

 

[jonaserik]

There are no shortcuts, possibly drill slightly larger holes slowly and at least 10 cm deep (if it's a joint, it can be filled up) long plugs with screws are available for purchase. Up to 20 cm. And putty around the damaged area.

 

[namnbyte]

Are these the two options you see? Wasn't the option with the right material good?

No, I've probably seen all the options, and using other materials is also good/probably better. BUT he had already gone the route with filler, and it will probably hold perfectly fine.

Cleaning out and starting over would be completely unnecessary just because there are other ways to make it adhere even better, especially when the already executed method may very well work for him. Only IF it fails, it would make sense to redo it.

 

[Farstatjej90]

No, I've probably seen all the options, and using other materials is also good/probably better. BUT he had already gone the route with filler, and it will probably hold up excellently.

To clear out and start over would be completely unnecessary just because there are other ways for it to adhere even better, especially when the already executed method might work well for him. Only IF it fails would it be sensible to redo.

I don't understand what your point was, and I'm not sure you do either, as Trump would have said.....
If I were in TS's situation, I would redo it because things always break down when it's least convenient....

 

[namnbyte]

I don't understand what your point was, and I'm not sure you do either, as Trump would have said.....
Had I been in the TS situation I would have redone it because things always break at the least convenient time....

I don't follow Trump but regret your ability. The point is and always was; what he's doing will surely work fine if he lets it dry thoroughly first.