Damaged wall with a visible screw and cracked plaster beneath a shelf, surrounded by miscellaneous items including a shell and magazines.
Hi!
In the apartment I've moved into, I discovered that one of the windowsills was slightly slanted. I investigated and quickly noticed that the windowsill (granite slab) was mounted on a wall with only one gypsum board (simple gypsum wall) without any reinforcement (plywood, screwed into a stud, OSB) behind it. It's a completely worthless construction; it only takes leaning against it a little or having curious kids hanging on it for it to come loose with the result of large holes in the wall.
Is it standard to build this way?
Do you have any tips for a solution? It must be reinforced behind. I have a solution in mind but I'd love to hear more ideas.
//Jack
 
L
New or old house ??? Newly renovated or original ??
 
Built 2008
 
L Liteavvarje said:
New or old house??? Newly renovated or original??
Built in 2008. Original.
 
tommib
It sounds completely wrong. You don't mount anything in plaster other than the occasional painting. Window sills should definitely be attached to studs.
 
L
Rental apartment or condominium
Rental apartment: the landlord's problem,
Condominium: your problem, you know who did it, it probably doesn't matter who did it, such defects come as a bonus when buying.
To fix it again, drill deep into the wall with 2 holes on each bracket (might have to drill new holes in the bracket), long screws and plugs, and some form of wooden piece as a spacer behind to the wall.
 
tommib
What do you mean by long screws/anchors? It won't help at all if the only thing there is the drywall. If it's not possible to attach the brackets to the wall studs, the only reasonable solution is to remove the surface layer and add noggings.
 
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Moly plugs can hold quite a bit. Should work.
But it's best if you can move the brackets so you screw into the stud.
 
tommib
Molly plugs can hold some, but not for a window sill. Consider the torque that occurs when someone hangs on or leans against it.

Molly is not stronger than the board they're in. If it were double plasterboard maybe, but never in a million years with single plasterboard. I wouldn't use molly in double plasterboard either.
 
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tommib tommib said:
That sounds completely wrong. You install nothing in plasterboard other than the occasional picture. Windowsills should absolutely be attached to studs.
Exactly my thought
 
L Liteavvarje said:
Rental or Cooperative
Rental property the landlord's problem,
Cooperative your problem, you know who did it, it probably doesn't matter who did it, such defects come as a bonus with the purchase.
To reattach it, drill deep into the wall, 2 holes on each bracket (might involve drilling new holes in the bracket), long screws and plugs, and some form of wooden spacer behind to the wall.
I understand that it's my responsibility to investigate, and I actually pointed it out during the apartment viewing. They knew nothing, of course... I know I can handle this, so it's not really a big problem. BUT, I am a professional demolisher, however, not a carpenter... I want to know, is it really built like this, or could this be called a botched construction? I would never mount the TV on the wall, for example. And tips for solutions, please.
// Jack
 
hantverkare1 hantverkare1 said:
Moly plugs can hold quite a bit. Should work.
But the best is if you can move the brackets so you screw into the stud.
The granite slab was mounted with moly plugs. My conclusion is that it doesn't hold.
 
J jackolako said:
The granite slab was attached with molly bolts. My conclusion is that it doesn't hold
If I have to move the brackets, I need to drill new holes in the slab, not a big issue but I still have to fix the wall and was thinking that I should cut open, insert plywood as reinforcement behind, and then reassemble everything...
 
tommib tommib said:
That sounds completely wrong. You don't mount anything on plasterboard other than an occasional painting. Window sills should absolutely be mounted on studs.
Completely on your side
 
L Liteavvarje said:
Rental or cooperative housing
Rental - landlord's problem,
Cooperative - your problem, do you know who did it, probably doesn't matter who did it, such faults come as a bonus with purchase
To secure it again, drill deep into the wall, 2 holes on each bracket (might mean drilling new holes in the bracket), long screws and plugs, and some form of wooden piece as a spacer behind to the wall
No need to drill more than 12 mm to go through the plasterboard everything is hanging on. Do you mean I should drill straight out through the facade then? I think I'd probably hear a thing or two from the association then...
 
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