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Well, Stina was several orders of magnitude more sensible and receptive to info.
By the way, she is still active here from time to time.
By the way, she is still active here from time to time.
It's calm a pu kar hear you, I .r once again isolated. Many here who write that it isn't asbestos but could it be because you yourselves are uninformed? The asbestos service was almost sure that there was asbestos.
Yes, the asbestos helpline sounds like a neutral information channel. You can trust them or the rest of the world, which says you are overreacting. But as already established in the other thread, it's your hypochondria combined with your inability to evaluate information that is the problem, not your residence.
Where do you find the helpline, by the way? The only hit I get on that term when I google is in this thread.
Where do you find the helpline, by the way? The only hit I get on that term when I google is in this thread.
We have a house from 69/70 (construction started in 69, move-in ready by 70). We have made some changes with the house. The ventilation ducts contained asbestos, cement channels, which I removed about five years ago when we upgraded the natural ventilation to an FTX system. Some of the ducts I had to break to remove, but it won't have any noticeable effect on me. The reason we changed the ventilation system is that natural ventilation works extremely poorly when you're not continuously using the fireplace; the oil boiler was thrown out and replaced with district heating. We have asbestos in one more place and we'll leave that asbestos until we renovate that space.
In the past, there was asbestos in vehicle brake linings, and service personnel cleaned the brake calipers, etc., with a steel brush and compressed air, they didn't have any respiratory protection, they haven't "dropped like flies" because of the asbestos.
In the past, there was asbestos in vehicle brake linings, and service personnel cleaned the brake calipers, etc., with a steel brush and compressed air, they didn't have any respiratory protection, they haven't "dropped like flies" because of the asbestos.
But let me guess...mycke_nu said:
You wouldn't do the same today?
Is it really worth replying to the OP when everyone who says it is NOT asbestos is dismissed as uninformed, but someone who jokes a little is believed?
raddforasbest should instead worry about many other things. I see it as significantly more risky to be out in traffic, swim in deep water, and be out in the sun, than to BELIEVE there is asbestos in all materials of a house built before the asbestos ban in the 1970s.
raddforasbest should instead worry about many other things. I see it as significantly more risky to be out in traffic, swim in deep water, and be out in the sun, than to BELIEVE there is asbestos in all materials of a house built before the asbestos ban in the 1970s.
No, of course not, but that doesn't mean I was harmed by the exposure or would be harmed if I did it again.Mikael_L said:But let me guess ...
You wouldn't do the same today?
Therefore, I would absolutely not hesitate to tear down something like an asbestos-cement roof myself, and as long as it wasn't dusty, I wouldn't use any protective equipment. Asbestos fibers bound in cement are not dangerous.
This said by a person who uses full protective gear (helmet with visor, lumberjack jacket, chainsaw-protection pants, same boots, and gloves) when working with a string trimmer in the garden.
So I'm not reckless or suicidal. Just realistically engineer-minded.
I reason roughly like mycke_nu. I'm careful with safety, but I'm not afraid of asbestos. Asbestos is an occupational hazard, not a poison. Use a breathing mask when working with it, ventilate, and wet clean afterward, and that should be sufficient.
TS, hypochondria and phobias are illnesses that you can get help with. Take that help. It is clearly causing problems for you. And there's nothing to be ashamed of or similar. Some diseases affect the body, others the psyche. Both types are treatable.
TS, hypochondria and phobias are illnesses that you can get help with. Take that help. It is clearly causing problems for you. And there's nothing to be ashamed of or similar. Some diseases affect the body, others the psyche. Both types are treatable.
Here we have a person who was not calmed by reports of non-existent risks, but searched long and hard and was finally able to find support for the potential danger after a lot of searching: http://www.villaagarna.se/Radgivning/Alla-fragor/2013/Augusti/Asbest-i-bostad/
moral of the story. If you decide that something is dangerous, you will eventually find something to support your belief if you search long enough.
moral of the story. If you decide that something is dangerous, you will eventually find something to support your belief if you search long enough.
Hello hello friends!
Staying at a friend's place at the moment, a lot of raw anxiety but won't have my own place until September 1st. Yesterday I went to the psych emergency and got some funny pills. That's where my anxiety lies.
Otherwise, I'm wearing clothes from the house, but I'm thinking it can't be a particle and you just die, right? I'm not a troll, just a very anxious and scared person, so everything I write is true and how I think.
Those of you saying this isn't asbestos based on a picture need to confront that. How can you KNOW? Others in the thread say they've encountered asbestos, what differentiates these from the picture I linked? As I understand it (and I'm not a trained engineer, although many who work in craftsmanship don't care about asbestos either), asbestos was used in various places, and tile grout is ONE of the common ones.
Hope you are right and feel free to convince me.
/Anxious neurotic
Staying at a friend's place at the moment, a lot of raw anxiety but won't have my own place until September 1st. Yesterday I went to the psych emergency and got some funny pills. That's where my anxiety lies.
Otherwise, I'm wearing clothes from the house, but I'm thinking it can't be a particle and you just die, right? I'm not a troll, just a very anxious and scared person, so everything I write is true and how I think.
Those of you saying this isn't asbestos based on a picture need to confront that. How can you KNOW? Others in the thread say they've encountered asbestos, what differentiates these from the picture I linked? As I understand it (and I'm not a trained engineer, although many who work in craftsmanship don't care about asbestos either), asbestos was used in various places, and tile grout is ONE of the common ones.
Hope you are right and feel free to convince me.
/Anxious neurotic
It doesn't matter what we say, your problems are in your head and nowhere else.
Even if you happen to walk into a room full of asbestos once in your life, it's no danger, and it's also no danger to live in a house with asbestos as long as you don't start tearing around, and then it's enough with special suits for the workers and being careful to ventilate afterwards.
The reason it was banned was because it was a danger for those who worked with it daily!
It's obviously not healthy but it's not a poison like arsenic.
You do know that you can also die from water intoxication, right?
Even if you happen to walk into a room full of asbestos once in your life, it's no danger, and it's also no danger to live in a house with asbestos as long as you don't start tearing around, and then it's enough with special suits for the workers and being careful to ventilate afterwards.
The reason it was banned was because it was a danger for those who worked with it daily!
It's obviously not healthy but it's not a poison like arsenic.
You do know that you can also die from water intoxication, right?