How long does it take to build a Hakiställning for a small red cottage?

[Claudia Lendi]

Hello!
I would like to know how long it takes and how many people are needed to build a Hakiställning? It should be on three sides of a regular red cottage (about 35 qm). I assume 1.5 days for assembly and maybe one day for disassembly?

Thank you in advance,
Claudia

 

[cpalm]

If we're talking about building yourself with no previous experience, it sounds like a reasonable estimate. Having two people definitely makes it easier.

If professionals are going to build, or even an amateur with some experience, it should go significantly faster than that.

All this assuming that the material is in place and there are no special requirements.

 

[Claudia Lendi]

Ugh, no it's a company. I have to pay 27,200 SEK for setup. In my world, that includes dismantling as well, but it's not on the invoice.

 

[cpalm]

Ugh, no it's a company. I have to pay 27,200 SEK for the construction.

Jesus, yes you really have to hope that includes dismantling 🙄
I assume that price is due to a lack of competition and not a market-based hourly rate... Or they are pulling a fast one.

What kind of work is to be done? I can't reconcile that with it being scaffolding on three sides?

 

[MathiasS]

Yuck, no, it's a company. I have to pay 27,200 SEK for construction. In my world, that includes dismantling as well, but it's not stated on the invoice.

Has the work been completed already and you've received an invoice to pay?
Is this separate from renting the scaffold and transportation of the scaffold?
Was this not quoted before the work started, did you order without having a price?

If you haven't ordered yet, the safest option is to get more quotes.

 

[polaris78]

Unfortunately, it is often the case that scaffolding is added on top of the agreed price in the quote, so there is often no price pressure on that item, and it is of course fully exploited by those companies.

Then, it is clear that for practical reasons such as travel, etc., it often becomes a lot more hours than those who were actually at the house assembling the scaffolding. The equipment needs to be loaded at the rental company. Two guys have to travel to and from the site, and often due to everything, you can probably only manage one a day. Then there is often also a fee like rent for the scaffolding.

It's a bit like when construction companies rent machines that they really use so many times a year that they should have their own, but it's convenient to go and rent them. You have to pay both for the carpenters' labor time as they pick them up and then a markup on the invoice for the rental, and often it is hidden under some wording about certain machines rented from the rental company and billed separately, ideally with some percentage markup.

 

[Claudia Lendi]

Thank you for all the responses. Unfortunately, I encountered a real swindler in connection with a roof replacement. The quote only mentioned that the scaffolding would be extra. If they didn't pick up the scaffolding from Stockholm but from the neighboring village (in Skåne), even the loading wouldn't take too many hours.

Delivery of haki scaffolding: 7 500

Assembly of haki scaffolding: 27 2000

Scaffolding rental: 9 600

Transport costs: 4 500

In the picture, you can see our dear red cottage. You can't directly see the scaffolding, but by that, I mean it's only on three sides.

 

[Claudia Lendi]

If you're interested, there is now another thread with the whole story:

https://www.byggahus.se/forum/threa...kbytte-och-raedda-stugan.504181/#post-5484061​

 

[swirve]

That little stand can be easily built by two beginners in a morning!

 

[nino]

It didn't take me more than a day the first time I set up 9*7m and I was completely alone.

 

[Claudia Lendi]

That little stand is easily built by two beginners in a morning!

He just wrote that I should pay for the dismantling 🙄

 

[swirve]

He wrote now that I have to pay for the dismantling 🙄

Request a quote from another company for the equivalent job. Pay what they offer and dispute the rest!

 

[cpalm]

In the image, you can see our dear red cottage. You can't directly see the scaffolding, but I mean that it only stands on three sides.

Oh oh oh, unfortunately a clear attempt at fraud.

 

[surfarn]

Thanks for all the answers. Unfortunately, I ended up with a real con artist in connection with a roof replacement. The quote only mentioned that the scaffolding would be extra. If they didn't pick up the scaffolding from Stockholm but from the neighboring village (in Skåne), the loading shouldn't take too many hours.

Delivery of haki scaffolding: 7 500

Assembly of haki scaffolding: 27 2000

Scaffolding rental: 9 600

Transport costs: 4 500

In the picture, you can see our dear red cottage. You can't really see the scaffolding, but I mean it's only standing on three sides.

Note, I'm just a regular desk builder, but I checked blocket and for your 48800 (plus dismantling), you can buy a considerably larger scaffolding and hire some guys to assemble it, for about the same money. I think it sounds like an outrageous price!!

 

[Claudia Lendi]

I have now stopped all work and have terminated the agreement. I received an invoice that I intend to partially pay, but he is demanding 15,700 for the disassembly, see below. Am I interpreting correctly if he means 20 hours at 785.00 hourly wage?