Hello,

I have bought a 40x20x1.8 cm pine board that is finger-jointed from Biltema. My idea is to attach brackets similar to these:

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These are attached with expansion screws in a plaster wall, and then a speaker weighing 10 KG is placed on this. If I'm unlucky, the cat might also decide to jump up on the speaker, making it 20 KG.

Should I consider different shelving units or will this work?
 
I am more concerned about how an expansion screw in a drywall is supposed to hold 20 kg... :x
 
An M5 Molly supports about 40kg on the wall, and the board is likely to hold, but I doubt the console...
 
Exactly, the glulam board is not the weak link in that solution. With such small brackets, you will have a large tensile force in the expander, so I would be most worried about it pulling a hole in the plaster. The bracket itself will surely hold.
 
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I have previously used expansion bolts in drywall successfully. Right now, I have a 65" TV hanging on 4 expansions and 2 wood screws in the same wall. Previously, I have had the following brackets with similar expansions (2 pcs) with the same speakers.

Metal wall bracket with a curved support, designed for supporting shelves or mounted items, featuring multiple screw holes for secure installation.
http://www.clasohlson.com/se/Hyllkonsol-Habo/Pr314373001

According to the description on the back of the bracket package, they should support 20 kg, and since they come with screws and plugs, it applies to this specific screw. An expansion bolt of the model I have should support 30-40 kg in a whole drywall, in this case, I use 2 so 60-80 kg and I need a maximum of 20 kg, so one would think that part should be calm?

BUT of course, I'm a bit unsure now when thomasx talks about how the expansion could actually be pulled outwards and that it could damage the 16mm thick drywall I have.

The weak point could clearly be the laminated pine board, but it sounds like it should be fine, which is impressive!

What other suggestions do you have for brackets that can easily support 20 kg?
 
That console is not a bit better.
It's the distance from the top screw to the bottom of the console that determines how much load there will be on the expander.
If you drill a new hole at the top of the fold on the first console, it will be stronger.

16 mm plasterboard? Is it really old, or is it newly built?

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One option is to do as I did in the basement, set up double brackets, i.e., 4 of them. The question is whether it really makes any difference when the expanders are spread out over only 40 cm? It won't be as sleek, but it should hold better.

If the center falls, the TV will likely be lost, and this is a nicer Plasma that can't be replaced anymore unless you spend a large amount of money, so it's very important that the center stays where it should.
 
prototypen said:
That bracket is not any better. It is the distance from the top screw to the bottom of the bracket that determines how much load there is on the expander. If you drill a new hole at the top in the crease of the first bracket, it becomes stronger.

16 mm drywall? Is it really old or newly built?

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Unfortunately, I see no possibility to modify the first bracket.

The house is from the 70s, but the wall was set up much later, probably during the 2000s. Single drywall, as I understand, is 12-13 mm, but this is 16 mm, which is probably counted as single drywall, otherwise, the sheets would have to be really thin (8mm).
 
Maybe use a planed painted board or sheet rule to rule between the brackets and wall, screw the bracket into a stronger material and they will be fine!
 
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snowjim said:
Unfortunately, I see no possibility to modify the first bracket.
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Why wouldn't it be possible to drill another hole "higher up" in the first "nice" bracket?

With the 170 mm model, 20 kg "spread load" you get a pulling force of around 12-13 kg per expander, the shear force becomes 10 kg.

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prototypen said:
Why wouldn't it be possible to drill another hole "higher up" in the first "nice" bracket?

With the 170 mm model, 20 kg "spread load" results in a tensile force of around 12-13 kg per expander, the shear force is 10 kg.

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Are you talking about this one:

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If so, I don't know where that hole would be. The hole is in the middle, and above there is only a small cover that cannot be removed.

With your calculation, it should be fine with up to 20 KG since an expander can handle at least 30 KG?
 
Pagno said:
Maybe use a planed painted board or plank rule to rule between the brackets and the wall, screw the bracket into a stronger material, and they should be fine!
You mean to put a planed painted board on the wall, fastened with expanders, and then mount the brackets on it? That would certainly allow for more expanders along the board, but it also means the speaker would be an additional 2-3 cm from the wall.

Do you really think that 2 or even 4 expanders wouldn't be able to hold a center in place when it's in 16mm drywall?

I had the same center in drywall in the apartment before with the other brackets I showed. At that time, it had 2 expanders in the top holes, and in the bottom, there were just regular screws directly into the drywall, i.e., not much more than looks.

If nothing else, shouldn't 4 brackets instead of 2 do the trick?
 
snowjim said:
Are you talking about this:

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If so, I don't know where the hole would be? The hole is in the middle and above that, there's just a small cover that can't be removed?

According to your calculation, it should be fine with up to 20 KG as an expander can handle at least 30 KG?
I haven't seen those brackets, apparently, it was a broken image for me, I commented on bracket 2 from claso

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