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· Södermanland
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Hello!
I will soon finish working outside in my storage but I have a few questions.
In the ceiling, inside, the "rafter battens" are with cc120 I believe. Now I want to put up "rafter battens" so that I get cc60. How do I do that in the best way?
When I have succeeded with the above project, I will insulate the ceiling. There is already an air gap so I don't need to worry about that. Now I should fasten plastic, push in insulation, and then set battens with cc30?
If so, what do I attach the ceiling panels to? To the battens or the rafters?
Grateful for good advice.
I will soon finish working outside in my storage but I have a few questions.
In the ceiling, inside, the "rafter battens" are with cc120 I believe. Now I want to put up "rafter battens" so that I get cc60. How do I do that in the best way?
When I have succeeded with the above project, I will insulate the ceiling. There is already an air gap so I don't need to worry about that. Now I should fasten plastic, push in insulation, and then set battens with cc30?
If so, what do I attach the ceiling panels to? To the battens or the rafters?
Grateful for good advice.
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· Södermanland
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· Södermanland
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So, plastic -> insulation -> battens -> roof panel? Am I on the right track then? :wow:
No, the insulation should be on top of the plastic. Although the work order is correct.
But what kind of house is it, is there already plastic? You shouldn't install plastic if it isn't elsewhere, and ideally, it should also go over the interior walls. A vapor barrier in the form of a fabric or similar is probably better.
But what kind of house is it, is there already plastic? You shouldn't install plastic if it isn't elsewhere, and ideally, it should also go over the interior walls. A vapor barrier in the form of a fabric or similar is probably better.
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· Södermanland
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It is a storage room, new, with ^ roofing. From the outside in, it looks like this:
Walls: Wall panel -> a white fabric -> studs. Here I have placed insulation -> plastic -> OSB board.
In the ceiling, there is a type of board (thin) and rafters. Here I had planned to attach the plastic to the "rafter studs," then push down insulation, and then install battens and then attach the ceiling board to the battens.
I thought the plastic was needed... Hopefully, I don't have to remove the one already sitting inside the wall panels.
Walls: Wall panel -> a white fabric -> studs. Here I have placed insulation -> plastic -> OSB board.
In the ceiling, there is a type of board (thin) and rafters. Here I had planned to attach the plastic to the "rafter studs," then push down insulation, and then install battens and then attach the ceiling board to the battens.
I thought the plastic was needed... Hopefully, I don't have to remove the one already sitting inside the wall panels.
Are you going to have heating in the storage room? If so, plastic is suitable. Then you should have at least a 20 cm overlap everywhere, even between the wall and ceiling, and tape all seams properly with age-resistant tape. But maybe you already knew that.
Otherwise, you're right, the plastic on the studs, then battens, then the insulation on top of the plastic and battens (plastic only held with staples won't support the insulation), and then ceiling drywall or whatever you want under it.
Otherwise, you're right, the plastic on the studs, then battens, then the insulation on top of the plastic and battens (plastic only held with staples won't support the insulation), and then ceiling drywall or whatever you want under it.
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· Södermanland
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Well, I'm planning to have a couple of radiators out in the shed to keep it cozy during the coldest months... want to be able to store paints, etc. 
I haven't taped it... I'll have to unscrew the boards that are already there. Grrrr.
Then I guess I'll need to drill for ventilation. In two places or one... two, I guess, in my amateur-like ignorance.
I haven't taped it... I'll have to unscrew the boards that are already there. Grrrr.
Then I guess I'll need to drill for ventilation. In two places or one... two, I guess, in my amateur-like ignorance.
Is it freestanding?
I don't think the whole storehouse will rot away just because you haven't taped the seams either, actually. A little ventilation isn't bad, but remember that a small space might not need that much; it would be a shame to air out the nice warmth you've paid for unnecessarily.
I don't think the whole storehouse will rot away just because you haven't taped the seams either, actually. A little ventilation isn't bad, but remember that a small space might not need that much; it would be a shame to air out the nice warmth you've paid for unnecessarily.
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Freestanding. OK, I'll tape the remaining parts and think about the rest.cheetah1 said:
A thought: Should I plastic and insulate all the way up to the ridge - or? I assume so but I'm unsure.
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Collar beams are the lower horizontal part of the roof truss. For cathedral ceilings without exposed collar beams, a ridge beam is usually used.
I actually don't know the best way to proceed when you have a cathedral ceiling. Of course, you should have plastic and insulation all the way up, however, I am a bit uncertain about what is appropriate regarding the air gap, etc...
I actually don't know the best way to proceed when you have a cathedral ceiling. Of course, you should have plastic and insulation all the way up, however, I am a bit uncertain about what is appropriate regarding the air gap, etc...
If you miss a little with the plastic, it probably isn't a big deal; in a house, a lot of moisture is introduced from our daily lives, but in a storage room, you don't have that problem in the same way, as long as you have lids on the paint cans 
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Yes, but there are horizontal beams, I realized. The trusses look like triangles. I will partially put up ceiling panels on these beams as well to mount fixtures. Do I need battens behind them then as well?cheetah1 said:The tie beams are the lower horizontal part of the truss. For vaulted ceilings without exposed tie beams, a ridge beam is usually used.
I actually don't know what is appropriate to do with a vaulted ceiling. Of course, you should have plastic and insulation all the way up, but I'm a bit uncertain about what's suitable with an air gap, etc...